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Black Caps v India

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  • SiamS Siam

    @newsjunkie my opinion is that in a discussion involving an impossibly subjective verdict, allocating and inferring a mental shortcoming says more about you than your opinion.

    We call it playing the ball and not the man.

    Both Lara and Sachin were magnificent, and displayed their mastery differently. Admiring the pair of them needn't be a zero sum game.

    Yep the fence is the best vantage place to compare 2 titans 😉

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    @Siam said in Black Caps v India:

    my opinion is that in a discussion involving an impossibly subjective verdict, allocating and inferring a mental shortcoming says more about you than your opinion.
    We call it playing the ball and not the man.

    Fair point.

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    • G Gunner

      This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
      Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
      Ta.

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      @Gunner said in Black Caps v India:

      This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
      Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
      Ta.

      Agree. It's like listening to people argue the toss between an Envy apple and a Jazz apple.

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      • sharkS shark

        @Gunner said in Black Caps v India:

        This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
        Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
        Ta.

        Agree. It's like listening to people argue the toss between an Envy apple and a Jazz apple.

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        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

        @Gunner said in Black Caps v India:

        This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
        Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
        Ta.

        Agree. It's like listening to people argue the toss between an Envy apple and a Jazz apple.

        Gala apple motherfucker!!!

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          @shark said in Black Caps v India:

          @Gunner said in Black Caps v India:

          This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
          Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
          Ta.

          Agree. It's like listening to people argue the toss between an Envy apple and a Jazz apple.

          Gala apple motherfucker!!!

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          @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

          @shark said in Black Caps v India:

          @Gunner said in Black Caps v India:

          This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
          Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
          Ta.

          Agree. It's like listening to people argue the toss between an Envy apple and a Jazz apple.

          Gala apple motherfucker!!!

          Jazz all the way baby

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            Pacific Rose ...

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              Pacific Rose ...

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              Fuji apples - that's where its at!

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                Actually, apples are far more interesting than Lara VS Tendulkar!

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                • sharkS shark

                  Actually, apples are far more interesting than Lara VS Tendulkar!

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                  @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                  Actually, apples are far more interesting than Lara VS Tendulkar!

                  The fuck they are.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                    Actually, apples are far more interesting than Lara VS Tendulkar!

                    The fuck they are.

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                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                    @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                    Actually, apples are far more interesting than Lara VS Tendulkar!

                    The fuck they are.

                    You're boring me cob

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                    • sharkS shark

                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                      @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                      Actually, apples are far more interesting than Lara VS Tendulkar!

                      The fuck they are.

                      You're boring me cob

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                      @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                      @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                      Actually, apples are far more interesting than Lara VS Tendulkar!

                      The fuck they are.

                      You're boring me cob

                      Apples bore me.

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                        @Gunner said in Black Caps v India:

                        This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
                        Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
                        Ta.

                        Agree. It's like listening to people argue the toss between an Envy apple and a Jazz apple.

                        Gala apple motherfucker!!!

                        Jazz all the way baby

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                        @nzzp said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                        @Gunner said in Black Caps v India:

                        This Tendulkar v Lara argument is putting me to sleep.
                        Someone give me a nudge when we’re back talking about Black Caps v India.
                        Ta.

                        Agree. It's like listening to people argue the toss between an Envy apple and a Jazz apple.

                        Gala apple motherfucker!!!

                        Jazz all the way baby

                        I'm old school, cox's orange when I can get crunchy ones have the best flavour. Braeburns are not far behind, Jazz are consistently sweet and crunchy (remind me of splendours) the kids love them. There is an all red variety which are pretty nice too. Can't beat tree fresh apples. Unfortunately I haven't got a regular source

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                          So Guppy is outta tomorrow's game and Stuff believes Munro will come back in. What a waste of an opportunity to try another opener against the last really good attack we face before the World Cup. Munro had well and truly played himself out of the squad so for mine the fluffybunny stays out of the squad until he does something to warrant re-inclusion.
                          He's about to bat for the Aces v Knights so we'll see what he does here.

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                          • sharkS shark

                            So Guppy is outta tomorrow's game and Stuff believes Munro will come back in. What a waste of an opportunity to try another opener against the last really good attack we face before the World Cup. Munro had well and truly played himself out of the squad so for mine the fluffybunny stays out of the squad until he does something to warrant re-inclusion.
                            He's about to bat for the Aces v Knights so we'll see what he does here.

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                            @shark history tells us with the Black Caps that if Munro plays he will score a quick fire fifty and cement his spot in the WC squad.

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                              Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

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                                Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

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                                @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

                                If he's in the squad it will be as one of the four reserves. If the selectors choose to go with Nicholls as the emergency wicketkeeper over Tim Seifert, and I think they will, he's definitely in as the team's pinch hitter who can open or come in at 6/7. Only person who could push him out is a "healthy" Corey Anderson.

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                                  Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

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                                  @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                  Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

                                  You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

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                                    @Siam said in Black Caps v India:

                                    my opinion is that in a discussion involving an impossibly subjective verdict, allocating and inferring a mental shortcoming says more about you than your opinion.
                                    We call it playing the ball and not the man.

                                    Fair point.

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                                    @newsjunkie as an aside mate, Roger Binnie is my favourite Indian cricketer. Many a night out with him and doc Paes, (Leander's dad), great men.

                                    Stick around man, but bring your A game to the threads with these cantankerous fluffybunnies that prop up the bar. India is now the team to beat

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                                    • sharkS shark

                                      @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                      Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

                                      You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

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                                      @shark he's a funny one I reckon, but he's now only a t20 player and should be an automatic pick in the format where each result means nothing really.

                                      He was player of the tournament in the Caribbean last year and actually has a cool mid wicket hoick off a good ball, (Jesse had the best one). He can play, he's got ability and has achieved a lot.

                                      But

                                      We all agree he's not worth the gamble in 50 over cricket.

                                      (be nice if those words come back to bite me on the arse)

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                                      • sharkS shark

                                        @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                        Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

                                        You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

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                                        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                        Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

                                        You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

                                        I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

                                        Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

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                                          @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                                          @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                          Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

                                          You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

                                          I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

                                          Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

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                                          @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                          @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                                          @hydro11 said in Black Caps v India:

                                          Munro turns around and his 54 off of 30. I tend to think, Munro isn't good enough. But he can be good enough on his day. He could play a knock which takes us into a final. We aren't going to be favourites anyway. If we pick Worker or Rutherford they might score more over a tournament but they aren't going to be the hero.

                                          You should have stayed with your original comment and left it at that. He's not fucking good enough. Every Dog Has Its Day is the phrase that best applies to his batting. And a 50 in the shitty Super Smash on a good batting wicket at a small ground counts for nothing. Further, your post reads as if in a dream world he could score a hundred in a World Cup final ie be the hero. Bloody hell. I'd rather have a Worker averaging 33 across a tournament than wait another 20 innings for the Munro dog to finally have his day.

                                          I don't think Worker will average 33 across the tournament. If he's batting slowly and Guptill starts slowly then it will be difficult for us to get the 300+ scores which we need. Batting is actually the relative strength of our one day team.

                                          Obviously we could pick Worker and he could have a good tournament but I think an average of 33 would be the tip of his ceiling against the 9 other teams in the tournament.

                                          You're probably right re Worker. I mean a career average of 34 across 10 matches VS five countries of varying quality including three 50s really provides zero indication of what he might achieve in a round robin of around 10 matches against nations of varying quality.

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