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<p>Nepia Jax has had a huge development over the course of the story. He was always a bad guy. Remember in season 1, he beat the shit out of that guy for sitting on his bike, then fucked his hot girlfriend. Then didn't he ultimately kill the FBI agent who was stalking Tara just because he mouthed off? (i may be wrong on that one). It's not like he started at saint. he started at hot headed, violent thug, and moved to straight up vengeful murderer. That's hardly a stretch. </p>
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<p>In between he has seen:<br>
His father in law have the wife of his best friend killed;</p>
<p>his kid kidnapped by IRA gangsters;</p>
<p>watched his best friend get beaten to death;</p>
<p>Have someone try to kill his wife (again, his father in law)</p>
<p>have someone actually kill his wife, and mother of his children. </p>
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<p>Pretty much all the really violent shit he has done has been in retaliation for one of those acts. </p>
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<p>As for the Sons starting as "good at heart" it was easy when they were selling guns to gang bangers and drug dealers in another city. Clay kept making bad decisions (it all got real bad when they started selling guns to mexican drug lords), and then someone would tell a lie (remember how the thing with Pope started?), and shit would re-escalate. </p>
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<p>While i haven't been impressed with the last season, it hasn't been as bad as some have made out, and i have really enjoyed the whole show (yes, i even liked the Irish series), and i think it is very simplistic to say that everything has been escalated with no reason. <strong>i think what the story is trying to show is the culmination of a lot of bad decisions, and their own actions over the various series coming back to hurt them. </strong></p>
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<p>For a start, I never said that Jax was an angel. We just disagree on the character development, I don't think it's been well done and you think it is. As you say he was a bad ass from the start, I don't even think the cumulative effect of all the tragedies you mentioned would remove the introspection he had at the start even as a bad ass.</p>
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<p>I recently watched 4 episodes of season 1 with a friend who's just started watching the show and it put the show in perspective for me because it was just way better back then. </p>
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<p>I agree with the bold, but as I said I don't think it's been done well - like The Shield did.</p>
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<p>Ps: The final episodes of the Irish series were bloody good - they just needed to cut out the endless wait to get to Ireland.</p> -
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<p>have <strong><u>someone</u></strong> actually kill his wife, and mother of his children. </p>
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<p>Sons</p>
<p>[spoiler]Unser had to die. That was his story arc. It was either going to be by Jax or some other way, but the situation created the perfect opportunity for him to go.<br>
He basically had nothing left ('This is all I've got'), he had cancer and all of his previous motivations had gone. Remember when he just tried to bail out of life and go bush in his trailer? Gemma was his motivation to keep doing something other than get stoned. His job protecting Charming had gone. His relationship with Gemma had gone. His relationship with the club had also gone for any good intent.<br>
When he said 'this is all I have left' it could have been taken a couple of ways. One is that he would have earned back a small amount of respect with his peers by bringing in Gemma and solving the case, the other was that he was trying to save Gemma's life as she was the only small thing left he had feelings for.<br>
The show seems to be all about consequences and remember that the catalyst for much of the shit in this story is Gemma and Clay killing JT. Unser was complicit in covering up the fact and even though Jax only pinned it on Clay (other lie), if he hadn't done that Clay would not have been Pres, the club wouldn't have gone so far down the bad path etc etc.<br>
Yes, he could have been collateral damage in whatever goes down in the last episode but this had a better tie in with the events of the story.<br>
Sutter has made comment in interviews about 'who will be the narrator', as in who will be the character that carries the story all of the way through. Well we now know it won't be Gemma and it won't be Unser. Kind of points to Jax or Wendy as Bones says[/spoiler]</p> -
I suspect with a grand finale of a long running series it will always disappoint plenty of fans for any number of reasons...Lost, Dexter are 2 that I wasn't happy with off the top of my head.
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[spoiler] well, no surprises, and the end was obvious from well out.. At least it completed the story arc and didn't get gimmicky.. The end was the worst bit of blue screen effect since the 1950s though. Surely they could have done that shot better. [/spoiler] -
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Sons<br><br>
[spoiler] well, no surprises, and the end was obvious from well out.. At least it completed the story arc and didn't get gimmicky.. The end was the worst bit of blue screen effect since the 1950s though. Surely they could have done that shot better. [/spoiler]</p></blockquote>[spoiler]He was even riding a different bike than earlier shots![/spoiler] -
<p>I am satisfied</p>
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<p>Finished watching the first season of the <em>Gomorrah </em>TV series. Pretty good stuff. Well shot, lots of action, plenty of plot twists, and appropriately grim.</p>
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<p>8/10</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2049116/'>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2049116/</a></p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomorrah_(TV_series)'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomorrah_(TV_series)</a></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="465129" data-time="1418213991">
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<p>I am satisfied</p>
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<p>No surprise after your fanboi post above.</p>
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<p>[spoiler] I was satisfied too
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="465150" data-time="1418251842">
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<p>I watched homeland for the first time since the end of the first series. Has the rest of this series been as good as last nights episode?</p>
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<p>A bit up and down, there's a lot of stupid stuff around Carrie but the 24 like stuff has been great. MUch better than seasons 2 & 3.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="465148" data-time="1418250347"><p>
No surprise after your fanboi post above.<br><br>
[spoiler] I was satisfied too [/spoiler]</p></blockquote>
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I am an unashamed fanboi. Show was brilliant. Happy with conclusion. Tidy little package. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="465156" data-time="1418254967">
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<p>The one that current last night , Isis drop by the embassy for a chat.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure which one that is - it might be a week behind.</p>
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<p>Quinn is the best character on the show now.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="465159" data-time="1418255660">
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<p>Ripe for a spin off...</p>
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<p>Here you go...</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">In November 2013, Kurt Sutter indicated that he was in talks with FX to make a Sons of Anarchy prequel set in the 1960s
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<p>Finally I have got around to watching <strong>Boardwalk Empire</strong>. First episode switched between flashbacks to Nucky as a kid and seeing "what made the man", Nucky in Cuba anticipating the end of the Bolstead Act (Prohobition) and Roosevelts election, Chalky in a prison gang, Luciano joining a "new family" and Nucky's ex Margaret in a New York stockbrokers firm and the subsequent fall out from the depression.</p>
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<p>Kept me interested enough to watch the next episodes</p>
