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  • TimT Tim

    Sounds like Hemopo won't be back next year:

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111214605/super-rugby-all-blacks-star-ben-smith-urges-sanzaar-to-change-format

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    @Tim that's quite the sneaky slight at non NZ teams! Anyway...
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/111158378/all-black-jackson-hemopo-signs-for-dynaboars-in-japan

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Tim that's quite the sneaky slight at non NZ teams! Anyway...
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/111158378/all-black-jackson-hemopo-signs-for-dynaboars-in-japan

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      @Bones This was the section of interest:

      "Everyone makes different choices and what's right for them at the time and [for] Jackson that's right for him and his family," said Smith, who will join French club Pau after the Rugby World Cup.
      
      "I know from the Highlanders point of view they wish him all the best.
      
      "Jax still has a few more years in him so you never know.
      
      "Obviously in our squad there's been guys that have gone over the Japan and come back for the Highlanders at some point, he still young enough to do that."
      
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        Luke Whitelock will join french club Pau at the end of 2019.

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        • J jauzy019

          Luke Whitelock will join french club Pau at the end of 2019.

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          #457

          @jauzy019

          I think that’s the first like I’ve given you in the Exodus thread. Well deserved

          and good luck to him too.

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            Who's going to play 8 for the Highlanders, Marino Mikaele-Tu’u?

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            • TimT Tim

              Who's going to play 8 for the Highlanders, Marino Mikaele-Tu’u?

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              @Tim I hope so!

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                #460

                Confirmed:

                https://twitter.com/SectionPaloise/status/1106231193832431623

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @jauzy019

                  I think that’s the first like I’ve given you in the Exodus thread. Well deserved

                  and good luck to him too.

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                  @gt12 said in Exodus 2019:

                  @jauzy019

                  I think that’s the first like I’ve given you in the Exodus thread. Well deserved

                  and good luck to him too.

                  I think all Akira bandwagoners will like that post.

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                  • ToddyT Online
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                    There's a few fringe AB flankers leaving post 2019. Hemopo, Squire, Whitelock etc. Will the Piutau rule be applied to these guys?

                    I really hope we've got the depth to leave these guys at home come World Cup selection.

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                      I get the feeling Luke Whitelock will be one of those signings that the fans love in the end. He seems like a pro, and will work his ring piece out for who ever he is playing for. He's having a good season too, so is leaving with some form behind him.

                      Our playing stocks are getting massacred!

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        I get the feeling Luke Whitelock will be one of those signings that the fans love in the end. He seems like a pro, and will work his ring piece out for who ever he is playing for. He's having a good season too, so is leaving with some form behind him.

                        Our playing stocks are getting massacred!

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                        Another good signing for Pau. Moving to our place down there next year so excited to see the team build.

                        Luke, if you are reading this and need a real estate agent hit me up. I know a good one. Still hoping to run into one of these guys in the local Casto in Lescar. Conrad Smith has a massive article in the local trail runners news paper. Apparently he is getting into marathons. So fingers crossed for some stalking.

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                          If he doesn't get an AB role, um, Chiefs please!

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12213316

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                            If he doesn't get an AB role, um, Chiefs please!

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12213316

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                            @gt12 said in Exodus 2019:

                            If he doesn't get an AB role, um, Chiefs please!

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12213316

                            Obvious successor to razor when he gets the tap on the shoulder!

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                              @gt12 said in Exodus 2019:

                              If he doesn't get an AB role, um, Chiefs please!

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12213316

                              Obvious successor to razor when he gets the tap on the shoulder!

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                              @mooshld If Razor doesn't immediately get the tap on the shoulder, he could become Razor's assistant, replacing Brad Mooar. They'd need to reshuffle some roles though.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                I get the feeling Luke Whitelock will be one of those signings that the fans love in the end. He seems like a pro, and will work his ring piece out for who ever he is playing for. He's having a good season too, so is leaving with some form behind him.

                                Our playing stocks are getting massacred!

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                                @mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:

                                I get the feeling Luke Whitelock will be one of those signings that the fans love in the end. He seems like a pro, and will work his ring piece out for who ever he is playing for. He's having a good season too, so is leaving with some form behind him.

                                Our playing stocks are getting massacred!

                                That's what Highlanders fans see, he gets through a lot of work

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                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12213310

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                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12213310

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                                    @Tim

                                    TJ Perenara has never quite managed to convince that he's a better option than even a not-quite fully-firing Smith.
                                    

                                    I disagree with this. When AS was not playing at his best the last few years, TJP has definitely looked the better player. I don't think there's much between the two; they're very different players and one will be more suitable to start against opponent A, and the other against opponent B.

                                    This bit is hilarious:

                                    The fact he's also sure he is committing to stay in New Zealand will give him a deeper foundation of stability and he will most likely once again prove he's in that select group, alongside Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Kieran Read, Sonny Bill Williams and Ben Smith that make a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play.
                                    

                                    When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

                                    There is a bit of noise being made about his understudy at the Highlanders, but Folau Fakatava is an untested 19-year-old with an enormous way to go to prove he's even Super Rugby ready.
                                    

                                    Well, obviously the Highlanders management disagree, because they have already given him some game time and he'll get more soon. Fakatava is SR ready.

                                    I think keeping AS in NZ will be a good thing. But mostly for the Highlanders, not the ABs. He'll turn 31 at the end of the year. I can't see him playing in black for 4 more years. Behind TJP, there are a few halfbacks that already are, or will be knocking on the door in the next few years. TTT is the obvious player to look at (if he gets more game time, that's another story), but also Hall, Enari, and yes, maybe in a few years time also Fakatava.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Tim

                                      TJ Perenara has never quite managed to convince that he's a better option than even a not-quite fully-firing Smith.
                                      

                                      I disagree with this. When AS was not playing at his best the last few years, TJP has definitely looked the better player. I don't think there's much between the two; they're very different players and one will be more suitable to start against opponent A, and the other against opponent B.

                                      This bit is hilarious:

                                      The fact he's also sure he is committing to stay in New Zealand will give him a deeper foundation of stability and he will most likely once again prove he's in that select group, alongside Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Kieran Read, Sonny Bill Williams and Ben Smith that make a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play.
                                      

                                      When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

                                      There is a bit of noise being made about his understudy at the Highlanders, but Folau Fakatava is an untested 19-year-old with an enormous way to go to prove he's even Super Rugby ready.
                                      

                                      Well, obviously the Highlanders management disagree, because they have already given him some game time and he'll get more soon. Fakatava is SR ready.

                                      I think keeping AS in NZ will be a good thing. But mostly for the Highlanders, not the ABs. He'll turn 31 at the end of the year. I can't see him playing in black for 4 more years. Behind TJP, there are a few halfbacks that already are, or will be knocking on the door in the next few years. TTT is the obvious player to look at (if he gets more game time, that's another story), but also Hall, Enari, and yes, maybe in a few years time also Fakatava.

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                                      antipodean
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                                      @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

                                      When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

                                        When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

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                                        @antipodean So he made a good offload in a few games. That isn't "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play". He also got a few cards in a few games, missed tackles etc. He doesn't belong in that same sentence with Retallick, Whitelock, Read and BFA. He isn't that influential and he isn't or has ever been that good.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Tim

                                          TJ Perenara has never quite managed to convince that he's a better option than even a not-quite fully-firing Smith.
                                          

                                          I disagree with this. When AS was not playing at his best the last few years, TJP has definitely looked the better player. I don't think there's much between the two; they're very different players and one will be more suitable to start against opponent A, and the other against opponent B.

                                          This bit is hilarious:

                                          The fact he's also sure he is committing to stay in New Zealand will give him a deeper foundation of stability and he will most likely once again prove he's in that select group, alongside Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Kieran Read, Sonny Bill Williams and Ben Smith that make a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play.
                                          

                                          When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

                                          There is a bit of noise being made about his understudy at the Highlanders, but Folau Fakatava is an untested 19-year-old with an enormous way to go to prove he's even Super Rugby ready.
                                          

                                          Well, obviously the Highlanders management disagree, because they have already given him some game time and he'll get more soon. Fakatava is SR ready.

                                          I think keeping AS in NZ will be a good thing. But mostly for the Highlanders, not the ABs. He'll turn 31 at the end of the year. I can't see him playing in black for 4 more years. Behind TJP, there are a few halfbacks that already are, or will be knocking on the door in the next few years. TTT is the obvious player to look at (if he gets more game time, that's another story), but also Hall, Enari, and yes, maybe in a few years time also Fakatava.

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                                          @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

                                          When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

                                          Playing with 14 men generally requires a significant difference to the defensive pattern.

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