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2019 Rugby Championship

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  • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

    @booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    MacDonald was an experienced 10. Played plenty of provincial and Super at 10.

    Wasn't almost all of it after he was selected to play at 10 for the All Blacks though? A few games for Marlborough as a kid.

    Someone ought to tell All Blacks .com that they are talking shit: link text

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    @Chester-Draws said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    MacDonald was an experienced 10. Played plenty of provincial and Super at 10.

    Wasn't almost all of it after he was selected to play at 10 for the All Blacks though? A few games for Marlborough as a kid.

    Someone ought to tell All Blacks .com that they are talking shit: link text

    No.

    I'll expand. He had played plenty of rep rugby at 10 well before he was picked fir the ABs.

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      @Chester-Draws said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      @booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      MacDonald was an experienced 10. Played plenty of provincial and Super at 10.

      Wasn't almost all of it after he was selected to play at 10 for the All Blacks though? A few games for Marlborough as a kid.

      Someone ought to tell All Blacks .com that they are talking shit: link text

      No.

      I'll expand. He had played plenty of rep rugby at 10 well before he was picked fir the ABs.

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      @booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      @Chester-Draws said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      @booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      MacDonald was an experienced 10. Played plenty of provincial and Super at 10.

      Wasn't almost all of it after he was selected to play at 10 for the All Blacks though? A few games for Marlborough as a kid.

      Someone ought to tell All Blacks .com that they are talking shit: link text

      No.

      I'll expand. He had played plenty of rep rugby at 10 well before he was picked fir the ABs.

      I think we must have different definitions of "plenty".

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        MacDonald played the first Super Rugby season at 10 for the Chiefs.

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        • TimT Tim

          MacDonald played the first Super Rugby season at 10 for the Chiefs.

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          @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          MacDonald played the first Super Rugby season at 10 for the Chiefs.

          Well, I did not know that. Since I've watched pretty much every Chiefs game except 2018 I must have seen him too.

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            Leon started out as a 10. Converted to fullback.

            https://wildtomato.co.nz/2016/10/leon-macdonald/

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              this can go in here...

              ignore the headline, is a decent read for Gifford.

              https://www.radiosport.co.nz/opinion/phil-gifford-inside-the-secret-society-of-all-blacks/?fbclid=IwAR04tePHTrKy3aKK-jJbyPXn256PizyoUIKEDKVeTkKc-fsERkejpBUO2c0

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                Shit I'm blind: my guess updated at mid SR season

                What's coming up:

                Super Rugby Final 6 July
                decent gap to >

                21 Jul Argentina v All Blacks Buenos Aires 6:05 AM
                27 Jul All Blacks v South Africa Westpac Stadium, Wellington 7:35 PM
                10 Aug Australia v All Blacks Perth 10:00 PM
                17 Aug All Blacks v Australia Eden Park, Auckland 7:35 PM

                So away, home, away, home then a warm up vs Tonga
                07 Sep All Blacks v Tonga FMG Stadium Waikato, Hamilton 2:35 PM
                The RWC vs Boks on the 21st

                Google couldn't tell me the squad naming deadline, hopefully it is not before 17 August, and I think it is after, 3 weeks before the Cup starts on the 31st of August or so. Unlike previous years there seems to be more time for squad camps, rests, etc from SR>RC>warm up>RWC

                33 named for last year's RC squad, so I guess similar this year - unless they go to RWC sized 31 man squad because of a shortened RC series, but I think they'll name 33 to give them some options - like a 3rd #10 who won't go to RWC unless there's an emergency

                My guess: BOLD last RWC
                Hookers (3)
                Taylor, Coles, Harris

                Props (5)
                Moody, Franks, Karl T, Ofa T, Nepo L

                Locks (4)
                BBBR, Whitelock, Little barrett, Pat T

                Loose Forwards (6, one to drop RWC)
                Read, Cane, Ardie, Frizzell, Squire, Akira

                Halfbacks (3)
                Smith, Tj, TTT

                1st Fives (3, Black to drop RWC)
                Beaudy, Mo'unga, Black

                Midfielders (4)
                SBW, ALB, Goodhue, Crotty

                Outside/Utility backs (5)
                BFA, Ioane, Jordie, Havili, Bridge

                This is what I expect to see, as it stands, obviously things can change. There is also, worryingly, a lot of space as the squad is not settled like 2011/15. I also expect a lot to be with the squad training for the entire period they can, esp so they can do full team opposed runs & spread the current knowledge for emergency replacements

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                  I really really need to post the insiders thoughts that I've been meaning to since Dec or it'll be too late.

                  As a taster They don't rate Akira because he's a lazy penalty magnet (my words). What he does he does well but one of the KPI's they place a lot of emphasis on is how quickly someone gets up from a ruck and apparently he's one of the worst around. Can't play the AB game if half the time you're sitting on your arse (my words again)

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    I really really need to post the insiders thoughts that I've been meaning to since Dec or it'll be too late.

                    As a taster They don't rate Akira because he's a lazy penalty magnet (my words). What he does he does well but one of the KPI's they place a lot of emphasis on is how quickly someone gets up from a ruck and apparently he's one of the worst around. Can't play the AB game if half the time you're sitting on your arse (my words again)

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                    @dogmeat tease

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      I really really need to post the insiders thoughts that I've been meaning to since Dec or it'll be too late.

                      As a taster They don't rate Akira because he's a lazy penalty magnet (my words). What he does he does well but one of the KPI's they place a lot of emphasis on is how quickly someone gets up from a ruck and apparently he's one of the worst around. Can't play the AB game if half the time you're sitting on your arse (my words again)

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                      @dogmeat I see a problem with their reasoning. We’re constantly told he doesn’t go to rucks, now we’re being told he takes too long to get up from the rucks he doesn’t go to. 😉

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @dogmeat I see a problem with their reasoning. We’re constantly told he doesn’t go to rucks, now we’re being told he takes too long to get up from the rucks he doesn’t go to. 😉

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                        @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @dogmeat I see a problem with their reasoning. We’re constantly told he doesn’t go to rucks, now we’re being told he takes too long to get up from the rucks he doesn’t go to. 😉

                        Think it's more to do with the expression on his face when getting up.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @dogmeat I see a problem with their reasoning. We’re constantly told he doesn’t go to rucks, now we’re being told he takes too long to get up from the rucks he doesn’t go to. 😉

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                          @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @dogmeat I see a problem with their reasoning. We’re constantly told he doesn’t go to rucks, now we’re being told he takes too long to get up from the rucks he doesn’t go to. 😉

                          🤔 Well he doesn't go to rucks because the few he has the fortune to attend, it takes him several phases before he's on his feet for the next one that forms around him. 🤓

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                            it's cos the rucks he attends are behind the gainline cleaning up after Parsons...must be tiring.

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                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-watch-how-are-new-zealands-hookers-faring-in-super-rugby

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                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/112287669/rugby-world-cup-steve-hansen-says-two-or-three-bolters-are-in-all-blacks-picture

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                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/112287669/rugby-world-cup-steve-hansen-says-two-or-three-bolters-are-in-all-blacks-picture

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                                  Canes4life
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                                  @Tim Will Jordan and Tom Robinson?

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @Tim Will Jordan and Tom Robinson?

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                                    @Canes4life That was a contribution from the writer, not a quote from Hansen.

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                                      @Canes4life That was a contribution from the writer, not a quote from Hansen.

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                                      @Tim haha right, shouldn't have just assumed from the click bait intro.

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                                        @Tim haha right, shouldn't have just assumed from the click bait intro.

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                                        @Canes4life Ha ha, they did it even though Hansen went to pains to emphasize that he wouldn't name anyone.

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                                          Machpants
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                                          2 or 3 surprises. So does that mean 2 or 3 players beyond the multitudes that have already either been capped, played a match, been in a training squad, or Akira? Because none of those would be a surprise

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