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    @Jaguares4real said in World Cup Squad Positions:

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    Here's my 31 man Kiwi RWC squad with 18 forwards and 13 backs

    Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks, Angus Ta'avao, Tim Perry;

    Hookers: Liam Coltman, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles; Nathan Harris

    Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock, Jackson Hemepo Pat T

    Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, , Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

    Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

    Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

    Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape SBW

    Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, George Bridge, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

    I understand that is what you would select but this is the more likely position..

    Harris may not be popular with many but he has brownie points with the selecters and a proven record of being a strong scrummager especially in combination with Karl T and Angus T.
    If they are going to take four locks they will opt for Pat T and have S Barrett as a potential lock/6
    Someone in that midfield selection has to make way for SBW. I would ditch Crotty but I suspect he will stay due to experience and Ngani will be unlucky.

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    @Crucial said in World Cup Squad Positions:

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    You're right in that it's the 31 I'd would take to Japan

    But the 3 amendments you've made are likely to take place

    Hansen is a pick and stick kind of coach

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      @Crucial said in World Cup Squad Positions:

      idfield s

      You're right in that it's the 31 I'd would take to Japan

      But the 3 amendments you've made are likely to take place

      Hansen is a pick and stick kind of coach

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      @Jaguares4real said in World Cup Squad Positions:

      @Crucial said in World Cup Squad Positions:

      idfield s

      You're right in that it's the 31 I'd would take to Japan

      But the 3 amendments you've made are likely to take place

      Hansen is a pick and stick kind of coach

      Hansen and Co WILL make hard decisions if they feel they are necessary, but they also trust their ability to stick with proven selections and make them work in order to keep the bonus of experience.
      RWCs have really borne out the edict that experience counts a lot to get through the knockout stages.

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        pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

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        • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

          pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

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          @WillieTheWaiter yes, for the contentious decisions the arguments are pretty sound.

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            I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

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              I'd like to NOT see Jordie Barrett in the squad.

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              • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

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                @WillieTheWaiter said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

                Related but unrelated question ... is Cully the best rugby writer in NZ at the moment? Certainly is for me. Not bad for an Irish fella living in Dunedin who writes for the Sydney Morning Herald!

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                  I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

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                  @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                  I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

                  There's certainly less noise this year.

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                    @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                    I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

                    There's certainly less noise this year.

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                    @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                    @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                    I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

                    There's certainly less noise this year.

                    I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

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                      @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                      @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                      I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

                      There's certainly less noise this year.

                      I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

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                      @nzzp said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                      @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                      @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                      I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

                      There's certainly less noise this year.

                      I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

                      Perhaps a rest is what he needs, but the change in his game presumably to suit what the ABs wanted to see more of or having Coventry at the Blues has shortened the highlight reel somewhat.

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                        For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                        Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                        Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                        Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                        Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                        Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                        Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                        No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                        Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                        Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                          Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                          Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                          Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                          Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                          Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                          Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                          No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                          Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                          Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                          Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                          Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                          Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                          Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                          Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                          Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                          No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                          Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                          Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                          I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

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                            From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                            Harris vs Coltman
                            Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                            Weber vs TTT
                            Inclusion of Ioane
                            Bridge vs Naholo

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                              From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                              Harris vs Coltman
                              Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                              Weber vs TTT
                              Inclusion of Ioane
                              Bridge vs Naholo

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                              From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                              Harris vs Coltman
                              Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                              Weber vs TTT
                              Inclusion of Ioane
                              Bridge vs Naholo

                              I would change that into:

                              Harris vs Coltman
                              Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                              Weber vs TTT
                              Bridge vs Naholo

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Inclusion of Ioane
                                Bridge vs Naholo

                                I would change that into:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Bridge vs Naholo

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                                @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Inclusion of Ioane
                                Bridge vs Naholo

                                I would change that into:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Bridge vs Naholo

                                thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

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                                • HoorooH Hooroo

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                                  Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                                  Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                                  Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                                  Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                                  Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                                  Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                                  No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                                  Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                                  Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                                  I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

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                                  @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                                  Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                                  Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                                  Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                                  Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                                  Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                                  Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                                  No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                                  Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                                  Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                                  I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                                  I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                                  Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

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                                    @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                                    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                                    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                                    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                                    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                                    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                                    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                                    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                                    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                                    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                                    I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                                    I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                                    Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                                    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                                    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                                    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                                    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                                    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                                    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                                    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                                    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                                    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                                    I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                                    I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                                    Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

                                    That depends on the role they want Jordie to play, but yes, based on form Havili should make the squad, but I suspect they'll go for Jordie.

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                                      @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                      Harris vs Coltman
                                      Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                      Weber vs TTT
                                      Inclusion of Ioane
                                      Bridge vs Naholo

                                      I would change that into:

                                      Harris vs Coltman
                                      Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                      Weber vs TTT
                                      Bridge vs Naholo

                                      thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

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                                      @taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                      Harris vs Coltman
                                      Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                      Weber vs TTT
                                      Inclusion of Ioane
                                      Bridge vs Naholo

                                      I would change that into:

                                      Harris vs Coltman
                                      Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                      Weber vs TTT
                                      Bridge vs Naholo

                                      thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

                                      On form you'd have to agree, but Harris is reportedly a better scrummager.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                                        Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                                        Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                                        Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                                        Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                                        Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                                        Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                                        No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                                        Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                                        Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                                        I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                                        I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                                        Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

                                        That depends on the role they want Jordie to play, but yes, based on form Havili should make the squad, but I suspect they'll go for Jordie.

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                                        @Stargazer shame Ennor cant cover 10 like Jordie can....

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                                          @Stargazer shame Ennor cant cover 10 like Jordie can....

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                                          @taniwharugby Ennor can't cover fullback either, but I've no doubt he'll smash it in the ABs squad of 2020 as a centre/wing!

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