World Cup Squad Positions
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@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:
I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.
There's certainly less noise this year.
@antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:
I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.
There's certainly less noise this year.
I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater
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@antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:
I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.
There's certainly less noise this year.
I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater
@nzzp said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:
I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.
There's certainly less noise this year.
I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater
Perhaps a rest is what he needs, but the change in his game presumably to suit what the ABs wanted to see more of or having Coventry at the Blues has shortened the highlight reel somewhat.
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For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge -
For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George BridgeI've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)
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From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs Naholo -
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs Naholo@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
Weber vs TTT
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@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
Weber vs TTT
Bridge vs Naholo@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harrisvs Coltman
Patty T vsFifita vs A Ioane
Weber vsTTT
Bridge vsNaholothats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway
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@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George BridgeI've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)
@Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George BridgeI've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)
I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.
Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.
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@Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George BridgeI've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)
I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.
Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George BridgeI've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)
I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.
Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.
That depends on the role they want Jordie to play, but yes, based on form Havili should make the squad, but I suspect they'll go for Jordie.
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@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harrisvs Coltman
Patty T vsFifita vs A Ioane
Weber vsTTT
Bridge vsNaholothats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway
@taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harrisvs Coltman
Patty T vsFifita vs A Ioane
Weber vsTTT
Bridge vsNaholothats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway
On form you'd have to agree, but Harris is reportedly a better scrummager.
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@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.
Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George BridgeI've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)
I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.
Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.
That depends on the role they want Jordie to play, but yes, based on form Havili should make the squad, but I suspect they'll go for Jordie.
@Stargazer shame Ennor cant cover 10 like Jordie can....
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@Stargazer shame Ennor cant cover 10 like Jordie can....
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@taniwharugby Ennor can't cover fullback either, but I've no doubt he'll smash it in the ABs squad of 2020 as a centre/wing!
@Stargazer could argue JB cant (shouldnt) cover FB most of the time either...
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@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harrisvs Coltman
Patty T vsFifita vs A Ioane
Weber vsTTT
Bridge vsNaholothats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway
@taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harrisvs Coltman
Patty T vsFifita vs A Ioane
Weber vsTTT
Bridge vsNaholothats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway
The TRC squad is going to be huge, as they are resting a pile o players for the first test vs Arg. So I think it will include all of the above, and they'll decide from that and in camp.
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@taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harrisvs Coltman
Patty T vsFifita vs A Ioane
Weber vsTTT
Bridge vsNaholothats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway
The TRC squad is going to be huge, as they are resting a pile o players for the first test vs Arg. So I think it will include all of the above, and they'll decide from that and in camp.
@Machpants I thought it was going to be a 41-man squad?
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@Machpants I thought it was going to be a 41-man squad?
@Stargazer I missed that if it was announced, officially. But they said that those that are in the SR final won't go to Arg - that's a CHUNK of ABs if it's the saders.
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@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
Weber vs TTT
Bridge vs Naholo@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
Weber vs TTT
Bridge vs NaholoThe fourth lock depends on how Scott Barrett is seen, too. If they seem him as a 6/lock cover, then that'll open the door for Pat T. If he's lock only, Pat T doesn't go I don't think.
Not sure Akira will go though, could be a bit late to get into the systems as a loosie. Possibly an expensive few drink sin Dunedin (if the rumours are true)
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@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
Weber vs TTT
Bridge vs NaholoThe fourth lock depends on how Scott Barrett is seen, too. If they seem him as a 6/lock cover, then that'll open the door for Pat T. If he's lock only, Pat T doesn't go I don't think.
Not sure Akira will go though, could be a bit late to get into the systems as a loosie. Possibly an expensive few drink sin Dunedin (if the rumours are true)
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@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:
From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
Weber vs TTT
Inclusion of Ioane
Bridge vs NaholoI would change that into:
Harris vs Coltman
Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
Weber vs TTT
Bridge vs NaholoThe fourth lock depends on how Scott Barrett is seen, too. If they seem him as a 6/lock cover, then that'll open the door for Pat T. If he's lock only, Pat T doesn't go I don't think.
Not sure Akira will go though, could be a bit late to get into the systems as a loosie. Possibly an expensive few drink sin Dunedin (if the rumours are true)
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@nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.
@Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.
i love how people are still cool taking Squire, who has form doing dumb thug shit and getting binned for it. In a big game on the weekend no less.
It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.
