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Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @Snowy said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    @Jaguares4real said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    Plenty of worthy coaches for ABs: Cotter Rennie Gatland Schmidt etc

    If only we knew who was available. Two of those probably not, so not that many worthy options.

    So if the Lions coach is ruled out, and the bloke who said he wants a break for family reasons (Schmidt). Vern hasn't covered himself in glory (although that could be a cattle issue) and apparently Rennie is off to coach the Wallabies.

    Options look thin.

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    @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

    Options look thin.

    thankfully that rules out Foster

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      I don’t really think the sample size is big enough to say whether or not a successful ABs must have offshore coaching experience to be successful. The same guys have been running the ABs for 15 years.
      The game has changed so much in that time.

      If anything the evidence points to the opposite scenario where a successful international coach is better off if they have NZ coaching experience.

      It has to be Razor for me. Foster came in after the dynasty was built. Razor has well and truely proven himself. Not giving it to him would effectively be telling him to fuck off overseas for a decade.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

        Options look thin.

        thankfully that rules out Foster

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        @mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

        @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

        Options look thin.

        thankfully that rules out Foster

        another fat joke ?

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        • MN5M MN5

          @mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

          @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

          Options look thin.

          thankfully that rules out Foster

          another fat joke ?

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          @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

          @mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

          @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

          Options look thin.

          thankfully that rules out Foster

          another fat joke ?

          Oh yes, but a good one, and you got it.

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          • SnowyS Snowy

            @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

            @mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

            @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

            Options look thin.

            thankfully that rules out Foster

            another fat joke ?

            Oh yes, but a good one, and you got it.

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            @Snowy said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

            @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

            @mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

            @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

            Options look thin.

            thankfully that rules out Foster

            another fat joke ?

            Oh yes, but a good one, and you got it.

            Fat people deserve to be joked about

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            • MN5M MN5

              @Snowy said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

              @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

              @mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

              @antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

              Options look thin.

              thankfully that rules out Foster

              another fat joke ?

              Oh yes, but a good one, and you got it.

              Fat people deserve to be joked about

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              @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

              Fat people deserve to be joked about

              Don't Google police this place now? I'm not fat shaming, no way.

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                Fat people deserve to be joked about

                Don't Google police this place now? I'm not fat shaming, no way.

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                @Snowy said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                Fat people deserve to be joked about

                Don't Google police this place now? I'm not fat shaming, no way.

                Sorry, people who ‘might have issues with their weight’....I think that’s the PC term for it.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Snowy said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                  @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                  Fat people deserve to be joked about

                  Don't Google police this place now? I'm not fat shaming, no way.

                  Sorry, people who ‘might have issues with their weight’....I think that’s the PC term for it.

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                  @MN5 Unskinny is the term I believe...

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                    The government term is obese, which has a real nice ring to it, especially morbidly obese

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                    • M Machpants

                      The government term is obese, which has a real nice ring to it, especially morbidly obese

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                      @Machpants said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                      The government term is obese, which has a real nice ring to it, especially morbidly obese

                      Can't say that anymore. I listen to ZB. I know these things. Doctors are constantly upsetting patients with the truth these days.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Snowy said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                        @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                        Fat people deserve to be joked about

                        Don't Google police this place now? I'm not fat shaming, no way.

                        Sorry, people who ‘might have issues with their weight’....I think that’s the PC term for it.

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                        @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                        @Snowy said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                        @MN5 said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                        Fat people deserve to be joked about

                        Don't Google police this place now? I'm not fat shaming, no way.

                        Sorry, people who ‘might have issues with their weight’....I think that’s the PC term for it.

                        I believe the correct acronym is POS.

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                          Cool another Fern thread about persons being “big-boned”.

                          Attracting all lurkers to sign up before the Biggest Loser World Cup Edition thread kicks off.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            Cool another Fern thread about persons being “big-boned”.

                            Attracting all lurkers to sign up before the Biggest Loser World Cup Edition thread kicks off.

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                            Cool another Fern thread about persons being “big-boned”.

                            Attracting all lurkers to sign up before the Biggest Loser World Cup Edition thread kicks off.

                            There's plenty of these types of threads on the fitness forum. Get amongst it.

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                              We win the World Cup - Foster will be favorite. - fuck
                              We don't - Foster won't get anywhere near it.

                              I'd say we are less than 50% chance of winning (though still favorites) given the strength of the competition and our slight decline.

                              I'd love to have a break-dancing AB coach.
                              Make break-dancing great again !!!

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                                We win the World Cup - Foster will be favorite. - fuck
                                We don't - Foster won't get anywhere near it.

                                I'd say we are less than 50% chance of winning (though still favorites) given the strength of the competition and our slight decline.

                                I'd love to have a break-dancing AB coach.
                                Make break-dancing great again !!!

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                                @Frank said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                We win the World Cup - Foster will be favorite. - fuck
                                We don't - Foster won't get anywhere near it.

                                I'd say we are less than 50% chance of winning (though still favorites) given the strength of the competition and our slight decline.

                                I'd love to have a break-dancing AB coach.
                                Make break-dancing great again !!!

                                Breakdancing is a terrific and fun workout but it has to be said Razor needs to work on his 'Cricket" if he wants to compete with Digby Ioane.

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                                  What’s with all the pessimism about our chances at the RWC? I watched all 6Ns tests and whilst some of the tests were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow, if they play like that they’ll beat the ABs”.

                                  And last time I checked our SH counterparts were in a world of pain.

                                  Is it a case of we aren’t beating teams by 20 or 30 therefore we are way back in the pack.

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                                    What’s with all the pessimism about our chances at the RWC? I watched all 6Ns tests and whilst some of the tests were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow, if they play like that they’ll beat the ABs”.

                                    And last time I checked our SH counterparts were in a world of pain.

                                    Is it a case of we aren’t beating teams by 20 or 30 therefore we are way back in the pack.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                    s were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow

                                    The 6N sides don't need to be spectacular to beat NZ in RWC

                                    The weather conditions in Japan will be more variable including being hot & humid

                                    ABs have struggled to counter line speed in difference and find a way to win games - Ire in 2018 Lions Series

                                    Even the Super Rugby final last weekend Crusaders never looked like scoring minus a 5 min spell in 2nd half

                                    AUS are in a mess SA are looking decent and Erasmus is a shrewd operator

                                    Pumas are starting to show life gain with Ledesma at the helm

                                    You under estimate your SANZAAR compatriots at your peril especially in a RWC year

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                      s were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow

                                      The 6N sides don't need to be spectacular to beat NZ in RWC

                                      The weather conditions in Japan will be more variable including being hot & humid

                                      ABs have struggled to counter line speed in difference and find a way to win games - Ire in 2018 Lions Series

                                      Even the Super Rugby final last weekend Crusaders never looked like scoring minus a 5 min spell in 2nd half

                                      AUS are in a mess SA are looking decent and Erasmus is a shrewd operator

                                      Pumas are starting to show life gain with Ledesma at the helm

                                      You under estimate your SANZAAR compatriots at your peril especially in a RWC year

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                                      @Jaguares4real said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                      s were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow

                                      The 6N sides don't need to be spectacular to beat NZ in RWC

                                      The weather conditions in Japan will be more variable including being hot & humid

                                      ABs have struggled to counter line speed in difference and find a way to win games - Ire in 2018 Lions Series

                                      Even the Super Rugby final last weekend Crusaders never looked like scoring minus a 5 min spell in 2nd half

                                      Crusaders didn't need to be spectacular to beat the Jaguares.

                                      AUS are in a mess SA are looking decent and Erasmus is a shrewd operator

                                      Pumas are starting to show life gain with Ledesma at the helm

                                      You under estimate your SANZAAR ANYBODY compatriots at your peril especially in a RWC year

                                      Fixed it for you.

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        What’s with all the pessimism about our chances at the RWC? I watched all 6Ns tests and whilst some of the tests were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow, if they play like that they’ll beat the ABs”.

                                        And last time I checked our SH counterparts were in a world of pain.

                                        Is it a case of we aren’t beating teams by 20 or 30 therefore we are way back in the pack.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                        What’s with all the pessimism about our chances at the RWC? I watched all 6Ns tests and whilst some of the tests were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow, if they play like that they’ll beat the ABs”.

                                        And last time I checked our SH counterparts were in a world of pain.

                                        Is it a case of we aren’t beating teams by 20 or 30 therefore we are way back in the pack.

                                        It's two factors:

                                        1. This side has lost whatever ability the pre-2015 side had to play better the higher the stakes were. Call it siege mentality, clinical focus, ability to pull finger, shift up a gear, big game temperament whatever... this team has been below par in all high stakes games this cycle.

                                        2. The side is seemingly more vulnerable in games for longer (all game for both SA tests, Ireland and Englnad). Couple that with the inability to raise the standard of performance when it matters and winning three big games on the trot (or even the first pool game) is a pretty daunting task.

                                        I look at a test like the semi-final from 2015 against the Boks. If you put this side in the same spot after 60 minutes given their temperament and goal kicking there is a less than 50% chance they close it out based on the last few years.

                                        There are too many moving parts to say they won't win the RWC. But I would one of these happen this year: lose the Bledisloe, lose our first pool game in RWC history or bundle out before the final.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                          What’s with all the pessimism about our chances at the RWC? I watched all 6Ns tests and whilst some of the tests were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow, if they play like that they’ll beat the ABs”.

                                          And last time I checked our SH counterparts were in a world of pain.

                                          Is it a case of we aren’t beating teams by 20 or 30 therefore we are way back in the pack.

                                          It's two factors:

                                          1. This side has lost whatever ability the pre-2015 side had to play better the higher the stakes were. Call it siege mentality, clinical focus, ability to pull finger, shift up a gear, big game temperament whatever... this team has been below par in all high stakes games this cycle.

                                          2. The side is seemingly more vulnerable in games for longer (all game for both SA tests, Ireland and Englnad). Couple that with the inability to raise the standard of performance when it matters and winning three big games on the trot (or even the first pool game) is a pretty daunting task.

                                          I look at a test like the semi-final from 2015 against the Boks. If you put this side in the same spot after 60 minutes given their temperament and goal kicking there is a less than 50% chance they close it out based on the last few years.

                                          There are too many moving parts to say they won't win the RWC. But I would one of these happen this year: lose the Bledisloe, lose our first pool game in RWC history or bundle out before the final.

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                                          @rotated said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:

                                          What’s with all the pessimism about our chances at the RWC? I watched all 6Ns tests and whilst some of the tests were decent, I didn’t see anything that said “wow, if they play like that they’ll beat the ABs”.

                                          And last time I checked our SH counterparts were in a world of pain.

                                          Is it a case of we aren’t beating teams by 20 or 30 therefore we are way back in the pack.

                                          It's two factors:

                                          1. This side has lost whatever ability the pre-2015 side had to play better the higher the stakes were. Call it siege mentality, clinical focus, ability to pull finger, shift up a gear, big game temperament whatever... this team has been below par in all high stakes games this cycle.

                                          2. The side is seemingly more vulnerable in games for longer (all game for both SA tests, Ireland and Englnad). Couple that with the inability to raise the standard of performance when it matters and winning three big games on the trot (or even the first pool game) is a pretty daunting task.

                                          I look at a test like the semi-final from 2015 against the Boks. If you put this side in the same spot after 60 minutes given their temperament and goal kicking there is a less than 50% chance they close it out based on the last few years.

                                          There are too many moving parts to say they won't win the RWC. But I would one of these happen this year: lose the Bledisloe, lose our first pool game in RWC history or bundle out before the final.

                                          I'm in @ACT-Crusader s camp on this one.

                                          While 'keeping your powder dry' is an overused comment it is also misunderstood.

                                          Hansen and Fozzie have not (as far as I know) starting suffering from Alzheimer's. They have gathered a lot of lessons in their reign and one of the biggest in RWCs is how not to be playing the complete plan a year out from the tournament. This is the time where you try (for good and bad) how other teams react to certain set-ups and what plans you want to tuck away.

                                          I have no idea what the knockout gameplans are going to be at the RWC which is good. Is the constant kicking a real plan or is it a ploy to look like we are trying to perfect that tactic so that the opposition hang back a bit. One thing we know is that England especially are terrible at adjusting during a game.

                                          I don't think there is some master plan being hidden away. It will be more subtle than that but we can't pre-judge how the ABs will play at the RWC based on last year.

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