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CWC Semi Final - Black Caps v India

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    The match resumes where it finished. Only further rain will reduce the overs per innings.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      So how does it work, tv said we have restricted overs to finish our inningd but India get the full complement unless there is further rain?

      Didn't sound right to me.

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      @taniwharugby said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

      So how does it work, tv said we have restricted overs to finish our inningd but India get the full complement unless there is further rain?

      Didn't sound right to me.

      We start the day with enough time get the full remainder of the game in - so they will start with that aim. It seems like it will be raining though so somewhere about one and a half hours after scheduled lunch they will start losing overs - first the remainder of NZ innings and then India's overs until 20 overs can't be played.

      We could be in a dumb position where NZ bat out their six overs and India bat 19 overs and we get a No Result - but if after two days you can't get a result fair play.

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        It will be interesting to see the targets for India in the event of a reduced game.

        Cricinfo says it would have been 148 in 20 overs.

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          The issue for us is we have to go hard to set a target but also be mindful that if further rain limits the day then retention of wickets is vital to ensure a meaningful target is set under D/L. All made more difficult because Taylor will have to start his innings again.

          Best case scenario we get 50 overs set 250 knock India's top off. India get to 20 overs and D/L hands us victory

          Most likely - Roscoe goes second ball we fold for 220 and India walk it.

          Most satisfying - a full 100 overs game. We set 250 and roll India for 93.

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          • dogmeatD dogmeat

            The issue for us is we have to go hard to set a target but also be mindful that if further rain limits the day then retention of wickets is vital to ensure a meaningful target is set under D/L. All made more difficult because Taylor will have to start his innings again.

            Best case scenario we get 50 overs set 250 knock India's top off. India get to 20 overs and D/L hands us victory

            Most likely - Roscoe goes second ball we fold for 220 and India walk it.

            Most satisfying - a full 100 overs game. We set 250 and roll India for 93.

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            @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

            We set 250 and roll India for 93.

            Not satisfying enough; India's lowest ODI total is 63 and lowest against NZ is 88, so you need to beat at least one of those.

            Then in the other semi, have both days washed out and England kicked out of their own tournament due to shitty weather.

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              There is nothing more humiliating than when injured on a rugby field as a kid and your mum comes rushing on the field.

              Laura McGoldrick: "Hold my Beer"

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114133542/cricket-world-cup-2019-guppys-trying-his-best-wife-laura-mcgoldrick-stands-by-martin-guptill

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                @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                We set 250 and roll India for 93.

                Not satisfying enough; India's lowest ODI total is 63 and lowest against NZ is 88, so you need to beat at least one of those.

                Then in the other semi, have both days washed out and England kicked out of their own tournament due to shitty weather.

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                @NTA said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                We set 250 and roll India for 93.

                Not satisfying enough

                Its my fucking fantasy! Fuck off you with your shiny CWC trophies. piston wristed gibbon

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                  We set 250 and roll India for 93.

                  Not satisfying enough; India's lowest ODI total is 63 and lowest against NZ is 88, so you need to beat at least one of those.

                  Then in the other semi, have both days washed out and England kicked out of their own tournament due to shitty weather.

                  alt text

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                  @NTA said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                  @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                  We set 250 and roll India for 93.

                  Not satisfying enough; India's lowest ODI total is 63 and lowest against NZ is 88, so you need to beat at least one of those.

                  Then in the other semi, have both days washed out and England kicked out of their own tournament due to shitty weather.

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                  Dominic Decocco !!!

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    There is nothing more humiliating than when injured on a rugby field as a kid and your mum comes rushing on the field.

                    Laura McGoldrick: "Hold my Beer"

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114133542/cricket-world-cup-2019-guppys-trying-his-best-wife-laura-mcgoldrick-stands-by-martin-guptill

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                    @Hooroo said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                    There is nothing more humiliating than when injured on a rugby field as a kid and your mum comes rushing on the field.

                    Laura McGoldrick: "Hold my Beer"

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114133542/cricket-world-cup-2019-guppys-trying-his-best-wife-laura-mcgoldrick-stands-by-martin-guptill

                    I bet a few seconds motorboating those makes Guppy forget if he got a royal golden duck or 1000 not out.

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                      I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                      My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                      Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                      I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                      If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                      Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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                      • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                        I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                        My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                        Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                        I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                        If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                        Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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                        @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                        I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                        My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                        Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                        I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as pothers in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and tegchnique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and crate scoreboard pressure.
                        If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 preospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                        Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

                        A thousand curses on you for giving me a glimmer of hope!!!

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                        • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                          I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                          My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                          Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                          I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                          If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                          Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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                          @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                          If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                          Get down the TAB - NZ is a $5 outsider

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                            @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                            If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                            Get down the TAB - NZ is a $5 outsider

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                            @nzzp was $4 When I put a few on them before they started...

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                            • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                              I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                              My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                              Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                              I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                              If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                              Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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                              @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                              I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                              My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                              Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                              I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                              If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                              Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

                              Yep, if we can add another 20 - 30 quick runs, I see another fairly sleepless night looming...

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                                Manchester weather not looking too bad, chance of rain is low....

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Manchester weather not looking too bad, chance of rain is low....

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                                  @Bones only thing I want to see raining is sixes off Taylor's bat!!

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                                  • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                    @Bones only thing I want to see raining is sixes off Taylor's bat!!

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                                    @Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                                    @Bones only thing I want to see raining is sixes off Taylor's bat!!

                                    Not even mentioned in the forecast, sorry.

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                                      Getting pumped for this. We have runs on the board and the pitch won't have improved under the covers. There was seam early, plenty of spin, and a lot of balls were bouncing up unexpectedly, like the one that got Kane.

                                      India bowled really well to exploit the conditions, and all things considered Kane and Ross did a good job getting us in a position to set a target, despite some of the criticism they copped. We could easily have been rolled for 100 odd if they didn't knuckle down.

                                      That said, our bowlers will need to hit the right areas to make the most of it. Henry looking at you - no bloody half volleys please! And Santner needs to tighten right up to ensure we keep the pressure on.

                                      Bring it on!!

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                                        One more note: the start is going to be really important. If we can smack 30 or 40 runs then momentum will be with us. If India roll us cheaply then they'll be very confident.

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                                          Boult & Ferguson seem to be bandied about as the key craps.

                                          Not in Manchester, and not a cricketer of note, but it looks a bloody good morning to be bowling here.

                                          (is that the most irrelevant comment ever on TSF?)

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