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CWC Semi Final - Black Caps v India

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  • HoorooH Do not disturb
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    Hooroo
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    There is nothing more humiliating than when injured on a rugby field as a kid and your mum comes rushing on the field.

    Laura McGoldrick: "Hold my Beer"

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114133542/cricket-world-cup-2019-guppys-trying-his-best-wife-laura-mcgoldrick-stands-by-martin-guptill

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      @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

      We set 250 and roll India for 93.

      Not satisfying enough; India's lowest ODI total is 63 and lowest against NZ is 88, so you need to beat at least one of those.

      Then in the other semi, have both days washed out and England kicked out of their own tournament due to shitty weather.

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      @NTA said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

      @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

      We set 250 and roll India for 93.

      Not satisfying enough

      Its my fucking fantasy! Fuck off you with your shiny CWC trophies. piston wristed gibbon

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        @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

        We set 250 and roll India for 93.

        Not satisfying enough; India's lowest ODI total is 63 and lowest against NZ is 88, so you need to beat at least one of those.

        Then in the other semi, have both days washed out and England kicked out of their own tournament due to shitty weather.

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        @NTA said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

        @dogmeat said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

        We set 250 and roll India for 93.

        Not satisfying enough; India's lowest ODI total is 63 and lowest against NZ is 88, so you need to beat at least one of those.

        Then in the other semi, have both days washed out and England kicked out of their own tournament due to shitty weather.

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        Dominic Decocco !!!

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          There is nothing more humiliating than when injured on a rugby field as a kid and your mum comes rushing on the field.

          Laura McGoldrick: "Hold my Beer"

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114133542/cricket-world-cup-2019-guppys-trying-his-best-wife-laura-mcgoldrick-stands-by-martin-guptill

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          @Hooroo said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

          There is nothing more humiliating than when injured on a rugby field as a kid and your mum comes rushing on the field.

          Laura McGoldrick: "Hold my Beer"

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114133542/cricket-world-cup-2019-guppys-trying-his-best-wife-laura-mcgoldrick-stands-by-martin-guptill

          I bet a few seconds motorboating those makes Guppy forget if he got a royal golden duck or 1000 not out.

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            I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
            My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
            Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
            I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
            If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

            Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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            • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

              I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
              My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
              Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
              I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
              If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

              Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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              @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

              I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
              My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
              Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
              I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as pothers in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and tegchnique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and crate scoreboard pressure.
              If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 preospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

              Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

              A thousand curses on you for giving me a glimmer of hope!!!

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              • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                Get down the TAB - NZ is a $5 outsider

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                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                  If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                  Get down the TAB - NZ is a $5 outsider

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                  @nzzp was $4 When I put a few on them before they started...

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                  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                    I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                    My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                    Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                    I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                    If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                    Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

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                    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                    I think people are underestimating the difficulties of batting on that pitch yesterday. I would back Kane and Taylor to read the pitch and conditions and set targets.
                    My gut feel is that they think the pitch is hard to play your shots early on.
                    Setting a target of 250 in a CWC semi final with a overcast sky, and rain around.... not bad.
                    I also dont rate the Indian batting line up as highly as others in those conditions. They have a LOT of attacking batsmen that can take you apart, but if the ball nips around just a bit , we could get those guys out. I would bet that if we get Kholi and Sharma out cheaply, we are heavy favourites. Who else do they have that lineup that would have the patience and technique of Kane and Taylor. Obviously Rahul, but he is hit and miss and could actually be too cautious and create scoreboard pressure.
                    If it stays cloudy I reckon it is a 50/50 prospect , if it is a bit sunny.. def adv the Indians.

                    Interesting quirk, apart from 4 overs, both teams will be batting in morning conditions.

                    Yep, if we can add another 20 - 30 quick runs, I see another fairly sleepless night looming...

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                      Manchester weather not looking too bad, chance of rain is low....

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                        Manchester weather not looking too bad, chance of rain is low....

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                        @Bones only thing I want to see raining is sixes off Taylor's bat!!

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                          @Bones only thing I want to see raining is sixes off Taylor's bat!!

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                          @Paekakboyz said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                          @Bones only thing I want to see raining is sixes off Taylor's bat!!

                          Not even mentioned in the forecast, sorry.

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                            Getting pumped for this. We have runs on the board and the pitch won't have improved under the covers. There was seam early, plenty of spin, and a lot of balls were bouncing up unexpectedly, like the one that got Kane.

                            India bowled really well to exploit the conditions, and all things considered Kane and Ross did a good job getting us in a position to set a target, despite some of the criticism they copped. We could easily have been rolled for 100 odd if they didn't knuckle down.

                            That said, our bowlers will need to hit the right areas to make the most of it. Henry looking at you - no bloody half volleys please! And Santner needs to tighten right up to ensure we keep the pressure on.

                            Bring it on!!

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                              One more note: the start is going to be really important. If we can smack 30 or 40 runs then momentum will be with us. If India roll us cheaply then they'll be very confident.

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                                Boult & Ferguson seem to be bandied about as the key craps.

                                Not in Manchester, and not a cricketer of note, but it looks a bloody good morning to be bowling here.

                                (is that the most irrelevant comment ever on TSF?)

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                                  Well if Henry is on form he might be dangerous too

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                                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                                    There is nothing more humiliating than when injured on a rugby field as a kid and your mum comes rushing on the field.

                                    Laura McGoldrick: "Hold my Beer"

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/cricket-world-cup/114133542/cricket-world-cup-2019-guppys-trying-his-best-wife-laura-mcgoldrick-stands-by-martin-guptill

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                                    @Hooroo Lord have mercy. New drinking game to get shitfaced in 5 mins: shot for every time she referred to her husband as Gup or Guppy.

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                                      Well if Henry is on form he might be dangerous too

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                                      @Darren said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                                      Well if Henry is on form he might be dangerous too

                                      Yup, he's a real wicket taker when he's in a good rhythm, gets plenty of movement off the pitch. Which is why he has such a good strike rate and average.

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                                        So one thing I'm unclear on is what happens once our innings finishes. Do they have a full lunch break, or is there a shortened change of innings? Seems weird to start for 15 minutes or whatever it takes and then bugger off for half an hour.

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                                          So one thing I'm unclear on is what happens once our innings finishes. Do they have a full lunch break, or is there a shortened change of innings? Seems weird to start for 15 minutes or whatever it takes and then bugger off for half an hour.

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                                          @Cyclops said in Black Caps v India - Semi Final:

                                          So one thing I'm unclear on is what happens once our innings finishes. Do they have a full lunch break, or is there a shortened change of innings? Seems weird to start for 15 minutes or whatever it takes and then bugger off for half an hour.

                                          Probably not unlike the second day of a test if a team is 9 down. I imagine any break will be minimal

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