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  • E E African Troll

    @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

    Try Again Bones

    You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

    He’s not the only one

    👀 👀

    Okay @MN5

    Help us out oh wise one.....

    boobooB Online
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    booboo
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    #169

    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

    Try Again Bones

    You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

    He’s not the only one

    👀 👀

    Okay @MN5

    Help us out oh wise one.....

    He can't. He's ignoring you.

    MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Unite said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

      Try Again Bones

      You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

      He’s not the only one

      👀 👀

      Okay @MN5

      Help us out oh wise one.....

      Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

      I had to look it up, too.

      From Dictionary . com:

      What does 👀 mean?

      The eyes emoji has many uses. It mostly serves to draw attention to something the user wants to highlight, especially in situations that involve drama and interpersonal tension. It can also be an emoji representation of shifty eyes or the action of side-eyeing. This emoji sometimes appears when someone finds a person attractive.

      From emojipedia:

      👀 Eyes

      A pair of eyes, glancing slightly to the left on most platforms. The Google version of this emoji previously showed only a single eye, despite the name of this character being eyes (plural).

      Sometimes used to indicate ‘pervy eyes’ to indicate approval of an attractive photo posted online; or ‘shifty eyes’ to convey a deceitful act.

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      #170

      @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Unite said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

      Try Again Bones

      You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

      He’s not the only one

      👀 👀

      Okay @MN5

      Help us out oh wise one.....

      Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

      I had to look it up, too.

      From Dictionary . com:

      What does 👀 mean?

      The eyes emoji has many uses. It mostly serves to draw attention to something the user wants to highlight, especially in situations that involve drama and interpersonal tension. It can also be an emoji representation of shifty eyes or the action of side-eyeing. This emoji sometimes appears when someone finds a person attractive.

      From emojipedia:

      👀 Eyes

      A pair of eyes, glancing slightly to the left on most platforms. The Google version of this emoji previously showed only a single eye, despite the name of this character being eyes (plural).

      Sometimes used to indicate ‘pervy eyes’ to indicate approval of an attractive photo posted online; or ‘shifty eyes’ to convey a deceitful act.

      There’s actually a thing called an emojipedia . Ffs , whatever next ? Friendlies in test rugby?

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      • boobooB booboo

        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

        Try Again Bones

        You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

        He’s not the only one

        👀 👀

        Okay @MN5

        Help us out oh wise one.....

        He can't. He's ignoring you.

        MN5M Online
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        #171

        @booboo said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

        Try Again Bones

        You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

        He’s not the only one

        👀 👀

        Okay @MN5

        Help us out oh wise one.....

        He can't. He's ignoring you.

        He's too unintentionally hilarious to ignore.

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        • E E African Troll

          @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          No Bridge? Dry powder.

          It’s only a friendly

          Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

          I'm looking for a very good performance

          Below graphic is insane

          https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

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          #172

          @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          No Bridge? Dry powder.

          It’s only a friendly

          Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

          I'm looking for a very good performance

          Below graphic is insane

          https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

          Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

          The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

          Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

          You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

          Enough already

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          • KiwiMurphK Online
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            #173

            Weather forecast for BA looks improved. Less likely to be a wet weather game.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Speaking from experience when I played on the wing it was always on the left. Not only am I left-footed but it is easier to step off your dominant foot.

              There aren't many top players who are comfortable playing on both wings and you still see players kick with the in-step of their dominant foot because they can't kick with the other foot.

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              #174

              @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

              Speaking from experience when I played on the wing it was always on the left. Not only am I left-footed but it is easier to step off your dominant foot.

              There aren't many top players who are comfortable playing on both wings and you still see players kick with the in-step of their dominant foot because they can't kick with the other foot.

              possibly due to the acceleration factor also, some can accelerate better off their left side and some on their right, and being a good winger is a lot about that initial acceleration to beat your first defender

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              • SiamS Siam

                @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                No Bridge? Dry powder.

                It’s only a friendly

                Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                I'm looking for a very good performance

                Below graphic is insane

                https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

                Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

                The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

                Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

                You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

                Enough already

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                #175

                @Siam said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                I see why my POV is controversial

                But in an age where games are increasingly brutal + terrible travel itinerary you need to plan accordingly

                Not every Tier 1 nation is dealing with a full set of cards to play with
                Above graphic highlights where Los Pumas are at atm

                To have 5 players start every game & further 4 players miss only 1 game is diabolical You've got no shot of being competitive

                So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                Hence ensuring you've built depth and rested key personal accordingly

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                • E E African Troll

                  @Siam said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  I see why my POV is controversial

                  But in an age where games are increasingly brutal + terrible travel itinerary you need to plan accordingly

                  Not every Tier 1 nation is dealing with a full set of cards to play with
                  Above graphic highlights where Los Pumas are at atm

                  To have 5 players start every game & further 4 players miss only 1 game is diabolical You've got no shot of being competitive

                  So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                  Hence ensuring you've built depth and rested key personal accordingly

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                  Chester Draws
                  wrote on last edited by Chester Draws
                  #176

                  @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                  The Pumas do not have "by far the worst travel schedule". You're on a group from New Zealand for goodness sake. We're literally the furthest away from all the other rugby playing nations. Your NH tour tours are both much less far and with far less time difference.

                  Argentina in the Rugby Championship have one more long trip than NZ or Australia, but there are direct flights to each country involved. South Africa have to travel just as far as you.

                  The difference is that we win away from home, so people assume that we don't have travel issues. That's not true -- we've merely learnt to overcome them. The Pumas problem is not the travel, but that they don't play well away from home, regardless of the travel time involved.

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                  • SiamS Siam

                    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    No Bridge? Dry powder.

                    It’s only a friendly

                    Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                    I'm looking for a very good performance

                    Below graphic is insane

                    https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

                    Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

                    The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

                    Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

                    You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

                    Enough already

                    MN5M Online
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                    MN5
                    wrote on last edited by MN5
                    #177

                    @Siam said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    No Bridge? Dry powder.

                    It’s only a friendly

                    Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                    I'm looking for a very good performance

                    Below graphic is insane

                    https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

                    Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

                    The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

                    Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

                    You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

                    Enough already

                    I find his whole view on "friendlies" both hilarious ( unintentionally ) and baffling.....and when they lose said friendly there's the assumption the players have had to undertake so much arduous travel. One would think judging by @Jaguares4reals posts they had to journey by boat for weeks on end and send a telegram announcing their arrival.

                    The Pumas will play the All Blacks twice a year so I accept it's extremely likely we'll see them beat us at some stage in the near future. Do the players just shrug their shoulders and go"ah it was only a friendly?"

                    Like fuck they would. Look at the Irish.

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                    • jeggaJ jegga

                      @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Unite said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                      Try Again Bones

                      You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                      He’s not the only one

                      👀 👀

                      Okay @MN5

                      Help us out oh wise one.....

                      Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

                      I had to look it up, too.

                      From Dictionary . com:

                      What does 👀 mean?

                      The eyes emoji has many uses. It mostly serves to draw attention to something the user wants to highlight, especially in situations that involve drama and interpersonal tension. It can also be an emoji representation of shifty eyes or the action of side-eyeing. This emoji sometimes appears when someone finds a person attractive.

                      From emojipedia:

                      👀 Eyes

                      A pair of eyes, glancing slightly to the left on most platforms. The Google version of this emoji previously showed only a single eye, despite the name of this character being eyes (plural).

                      Sometimes used to indicate ‘pervy eyes’ to indicate approval of an attractive photo posted online; or ‘shifty eyes’ to convey a deceitful act.

                      There’s actually a thing called an emojipedia . Ffs , whatever next ? Friendlies in test rugby?

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                      #178

                      @jegga I can understand wookiepedia but this emojipedia is taking it too far.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Siam said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                        @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                        @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                        No Bridge? Dry powder.

                        It’s only a friendly

                        Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                        I'm looking for a very good performance

                        Below graphic is insane

                        https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

                        Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

                        The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

                        Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

                        You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

                        Enough already

                        I find his whole view on "friendlies" both hilarious ( unintentionally ) and baffling.....and when they lose said friendly there's the assumption the players have had to undertake so much arduous travel. One would think judging by @Jaguares4reals posts they had to journey by boat for weeks on end and send a telegram announcing their arrival.

                        The Pumas will play the All Blacks twice a year so I accept it's extremely likely we'll see them beat us at some stage in the near future. Do the players just shrug their shoulders and go"ah it was only a friendly?"

                        Like fuck they would. Look at the Irish.

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                        wrote on last edited by canefan
                        #179

                        @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

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                          Banned
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                          #180

                          @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

                          My analogy comes from Soccer Teams that rest & rotate for their friendlies Then role out their big guns for Qualifying games and Tournaments once they've qualified

                          I see it similarly for Los Pumas Go hard in TRC and look to rest & rotate during Summer Tests and EOYT with aim to develop depth & experience for younger players in a RWC cycle

                          Of course in these "Friendlies" you play hard but personal is very different
                          No wonder remembers or gives a stuff if Wales beat Argentina or if Australia beat Italy come world cup time

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                            #181

                            Sounds like excuses for teams that are a bit shit at the highest level

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                            • E E African Troll

                              @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

                              My analogy comes from Soccer Teams that rest & rotate for their friendlies Then role out their big guns for Qualifying games and Tournaments once they've qualified

                              I see it similarly for Los Pumas Go hard in TRC and look to rest & rotate during Summer Tests and EOYT with aim to develop depth & experience for younger players in a RWC cycle

                              Of course in these "Friendlies" you play hard but personal is very different
                              No wonder remembers or gives a stuff if Wales beat Argentina or if Australia beat Italy come world cup time

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #182

                              @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

                              My analogy comes from Soccer Teams that rest & rotate for their friendlies Then role out their big guns for Qualifying games and Tournaments once they've qualified

                              I see it similarly for Los Pumas Go hard in TRC and look to rest & rotate during Summer Tests and EOYT with aim to develop depth & experience for younger players in a RWC cycle

                              Of course in these "Friendlies" you play hard but personal is very different
                              No wonder remembers or gives a stuff if Wales beat Argentina or if Australia beat Italy come world cup time

                              Will Argentina have big guns to roll out at some stage later?

                              Also, this isn't soccer.

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                              • CanerbryC Canerbry

                                @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

                                My analogy comes from Soccer Teams that rest & rotate for their friendlies Then role out their big guns for Qualifying games and Tournaments once they've qualified

                                I see it similarly for Los Pumas Go hard in TRC and look to rest & rotate during Summer Tests and EOYT with aim to develop depth & experience for younger players in a RWC cycle

                                Of course in these "Friendlies" you play hard but personal is very different
                                No wonder remembers or gives a stuff if Wales beat Argentina or if Australia beat Italy come world cup time

                                Will Argentina have big guns to roll out at some stage later?

                                Also, this isn't soccer.

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                                #183

                                @Canerbry said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

                                My analogy comes from Soccer Teams that rest & rotate for their friendlies Then role out their big guns for Qualifying games and Tournaments once they've qualified

                                I see it similarly for Los Pumas Go hard in TRC and look to rest & rotate during Summer Tests and EOYT with aim to develop depth & experience for younger players in a RWC cycle

                                Of course in these "Friendlies" you play hard but personal is very different
                                No wonder remembers or gives a stuff if Wales beat Argentina or if Australia beat Italy come world cup time

                                Will Argentina have big guns to roll out at some stage later?

                                Also, this isn't soccer.

                                It's close. Argentina don't win anything in soccer either

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @Canerbry said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

                                  My analogy comes from Soccer Teams that rest & rotate for their friendlies Then role out their big guns for Qualifying games and Tournaments once they've qualified

                                  I see it similarly for Los Pumas Go hard in TRC and look to rest & rotate during Summer Tests and EOYT with aim to develop depth & experience for younger players in a RWC cycle

                                  Of course in these "Friendlies" you play hard but personal is very different
                                  No wonder remembers or gives a stuff if Wales beat Argentina or if Australia beat Italy come world cup time

                                  Will Argentina have big guns to roll out at some stage later?

                                  Also, this isn't soccer.

                                  It's close. Argentina don't win anything in soccer either

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                                  canefan
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #184

                                  @mariner4life ouch

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Siam said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                    @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                    @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                    No Bridge? Dry powder.

                                    It’s only a friendly

                                    Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                                    I'm looking for a very good performance

                                    Below graphic is insane

                                    https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

                                    Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

                                    The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

                                    Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

                                    You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

                                    Enough already

                                    I find his whole view on "friendlies" both hilarious ( unintentionally ) and baffling.....and when they lose said friendly there's the assumption the players have had to undertake so much arduous travel. One would think judging by @Jaguares4reals posts they had to journey by boat for weeks on end and send a telegram announcing their arrival.

                                    The Pumas will play the All Blacks twice a year so I accept it's extremely likely we'll see them beat us at some stage in the near future. Do the players just shrug their shoulders and go"ah it was only a friendly?"

                                    Like fuck they would. Look at the Irish.

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                                    #185

                                    @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                    Do the players just shrug their shoulders and go"ah it was only a friendly?"

                                    I haven't seen our players do that.

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                                    • CanerbryC Canerbry

                                      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                      @canefan said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                      @MN5 squad rotation has been going on for years now. But there is no such thing as a friendly in test rugby. Least of all when we are involved

                                      My analogy comes from Soccer Teams that rest & rotate for their friendlies Then role out their big guns for Qualifying games and Tournaments once they've qualified

                                      I see it similarly for Los Pumas Go hard in TRC and look to rest & rotate during Summer Tests and EOYT with aim to develop depth & experience for younger players in a RWC cycle

                                      Of course in these "Friendlies" you play hard but personal is very different
                                      No wonder remembers or gives a stuff if Wales beat Argentina or if Australia beat Italy come world cup time

                                      Will Argentina have big guns to roll out at some stage later?

                                      Also, this isn't soccer.

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                                      Big Guns to come: Sanchez Cordero Isa Figallo Herrara Urdapilledta

                                      With more options if needed, e.g. Imhoff F Bosch etc

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                                        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                                        The Pumas do not have "by far the worst travel schedule". You're on a group from New Zealand for goodness sake. We're literally the furthest away from all the other rugby playing nations. Your NH tour tours are both much less far and with far less time difference.

                                        Argentina in the Rugby Championship have one more long trip than NZ or Australia, but there are direct flights to each country involved. South Africa have to travel just as far as you.

                                        The difference is that we win away from home, so people assume that we don't have travel issues. That's not true -- we've merely learnt to overcome them. The Pumas problem is not the travel, but that they don't play well away from home, regardless of the travel time involved.

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                                        @Chester-Draws said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                                        The Pumas do not have "by far the worst travel schedule". You're on a group from New Zealand for goodness sake. We're literally the furthest away from all the other rugby playing nations. Your NH tour tours are both much less far and with far less time difference.

                                        Argentina in the Rugby Championship have one more long trip than NZ or Australia, but there are direct flights to each country involved. South Africa have to travel just as far as you.

                                        The difference is that we win away from home, so people assume that we don't have travel issues. That's not true -- we've merely learnt to overcome them. The Pumas problem is not the travel, but that they don't play well away from home, regardless of the travel time involved.

                                        You're having a laugh comparing Pumas to ABs in any way re. travel especially if you include Super Rugby which you have to extract any meaningful points

                                        One has 5 pro club established for over 20 years which gives ABs a player pool of 150+ players to choose from

                                        Other has 1 pro club side in their 4th season giving Pumas about 35 players to choose from

                                        One has their club sides play 80-85% of their games in good times Other has 50% of their games in another continent and multiple timeszones behind Nearest "derby match" is 10,000 km away

                                        TRC format favours NZ & AUS big time 3 of 4 games at home to start the comp every year

                                        EOYT are 4 games and a chance to rotate for NZ especially mickey mouse sides like Italy

                                        TBH in the TRC Los Pumas have generally played better away from him than in BA Mendoza Salta etc. over the last 5 years

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                                          @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

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                                          @cgrant said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                          Good test for Atu Moli against Juan Figallo. If he holds his own in the set scrums and shows what he can do in the loose, he'll be on the plane to Japan.

                                          The Jags scrum has been ordinary in the games I watched (I didn't see the final so can't comment on that). In the two games the Chiefs played against them the Chiefs had an obvious advantage. We will find out whether the addition of Figallo makes a huge difference to the Pumas' scrum.

                                          Figallo is a big step up, but Argies best LHs are in Europe.

                                          Who are these Europe based Puma looseheads?

                                          Only guy I can think of is Facundo Gigena- Leicester Tigers who is only starting to establish himself in 1st team squad

                                          He's learning from good players over there Time will tell where his career goes

                                          Lucas Noguera...

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                                          Noguera Paz is out of favour atm

                                          AFAIK he was 3rd choice LH prop at Bath Rugby last year behind Obano + Van Rooyun

                                          Not played for Pumas since Nov 2017

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