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AB squad for the Rugby Championship

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    In the current situation, I’ve got this feeling they might start Scott Barrett at 6 , at least we won’t be lacking in grunt early against the more physical packs,

    Unlikely now that BBBR is injured, unless they are confident in either Tuipulotu or Hemopo starting at lock.

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    @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    In the current situation, I’ve got this feeling they might start Scott Barrett at 6 , at least we won’t be lacking in grunt early against the more physical packs,

    Unlikely now that BBBR is injured, unless they are confident in either Tuipulotu or Hemopo starting at lock.

    Let’s hope he makes it back for the WC,

    I reckon this option might be good early when the teams are generally playing tight and low risk, our set piece would be very strong .

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @WillieTheWaiter if you recall we saw Kaino in the NZ age group team that won the RWC a year or so prior to that and he was even skinnier...

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      @taniwharugby

      @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

      @WillieTheWaiter if you recall we saw Kaino in the NZ age group team that won the RWC a year or so prior to that and he was even skinnier...

      too far back to recall, memory very hazy... just remember sammy T, and the awesome haka they busted out.. and that Kirwan missed it cause we sent him to get beers. ha!

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      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

        @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

        In the current situation, I’ve got this feeling they might start Scott Barrett at 6 , at least we won’t be lacking in grunt early against the more physical packs,

        Unlikely now that BBBR is injured, unless they are confident in either Tuipulotu or Hemopo starting at lock.

        Let’s hope he makes it back for the WC,

        I reckon this option might be good early when the teams are generally playing tight and low risk, our set piece would be very strong .

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        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

        @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

        In the current situation, I’ve got this feeling they might start Scott Barrett at 6 , at least we won’t be lacking in grunt early against the more physical packs,

        Unlikely now that BBBR is injured, unless they are confident in either Tuipulotu or Hemopo starting at lock.

        Let’s hope he makes it back for the WC,

        I reckon this option might be good early when the teams are generally playing tight and low risk, our set piece would be very strong .

        As opposed to when the finals roll around and they start playing baabaas style? 😊

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        • BonesB Bones

          @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

          @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

          @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

          In the current situation, I’ve got this feeling they might start Scott Barrett at 6 , at least we won’t be lacking in grunt early against the more physical packs,

          Unlikely now that BBBR is injured, unless they are confident in either Tuipulotu or Hemopo starting at lock.

          Let’s hope he makes it back for the WC,

          I reckon this option might be good early when the teams are generally playing tight and low risk, our set piece would be very strong .

          As opposed to when the finals roll around and they start playing baabaas style? 😊

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          @Bones I meant early in the game, not early in the tournament:)

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          • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

            @taniwharugby

            @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

            @WillieTheWaiter if you recall we saw Kaino in the NZ age group team that won the RWC a year or so prior to that and he was even skinnier...

            too far back to recall, memory very hazy... just remember sammy T, and the awesome haka they busted out.. and that Kirwan missed it cause we sent him to get beers. ha!

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            @WillieTheWaiter you recall giving Mark Gerrard shit during the game and then realising he was a unit when you saw him after the game hoping he didnt recognise you haha

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            • pukunuiP pukunui

              @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

              At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

              SBW to 6! Should have happened years ago.

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              @pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

              @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

              At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

              SBW to 6! Should have happened years ago.

              Way too slow

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              • broughieB broughie

                @kiwiinmelb Messam was just a shade below test level. Never felt confident in him. He was in between a 6 and 7.

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                @broughie said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                @kiwiinmelb Messam was just a shade below test level. Never felt confident in him. He was in between a 6 and 7.

                Overall I agree, but he had a couple of games against the Boks where he was very good indeed.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                  Kaino's debut AB game v Baabaas was end of year Tour 2004.

                  He then made his test debut vs Ireland in 2006 (June) but was poor.

                  In 2008 he made the ABs regularly. He got mucked around a bit in 2008 by initially playing 8 (I recall a Bledisloe where he was at 8 and Rodders was at 6) before settling into 6.

                  Just goes to show that some guys need time.

                  Also, some forget that we did have a lot of experimenting, swapping and trying different guys/combos during a period we were quite successful.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                  @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                  Kaino's debut AB game v Baabaas was end of year Tour 2004.

                  He then made his test debut vs Ireland in 2006 (June) but was poor.

                  In 2008 he made the ABs regularly. He got mucked around a bit in 2008 by initially playing 8 (I recall a Bledisloe where he was at 8 and Rodders was at 6) before settling into 6.

                  Just goes to show that some guys need time.

                  Also, some forget that we did have a lot of experimenting, swapping and trying different guys/combos during a period we were quite successful.

                  From memory Kaino got injured after 2004.
                  After his injury, he lost a lot of his speed, and then had to change his game and play a lot tighter.

                  I really do hope Papali'i focusses on being a blindside and models his game on Kaino, because I think they are really similar.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

                    SBW to 6! Should have happened years ago.

                    Way too slow

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                    @MN5 said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    @pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

                    SBW to 6! Should have happened years ago.

                    Way too slow

                    I recall a game for Toulon that SBW did play on the blindside. Not a bad lineout option in that one.

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                      I heard that Kaino was excellent athlete at St. Kent's, and second fastest 100m after Joe the Rock.

                      Later certainly built himself up. No. 2 AB at chins behind BBBT and benched about the same as Sam Whitelock.

                      Remember one EOYT c. 2011 where he was voted best player of any team, touring or domestic.

                      That said, his clean on 'cheap shot' O'Brien in third Lions test was as brutal as that on BBBR the other day.

                      Legend.

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                      • RapidoR Rapido

                        Messam, tbh I thought we was going to be a stinker at test level. A super Rugby flash harry a-la Fafita. Man, was I wrong, he stepped up so well. A very good All Black.

                        He's relevant to the not-tall 6 discussion going on though.

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                        @Rapido said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                        Messam, tbh I thought we was going to be a stinker at test level. A super Rugby flash harry a-la Fafita. Man, was I wrong, he stepped up so well. A very good All Black.

                        He's relevant to the not-tall 6 discussion going on though.

                        You mean Messum?

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                          Jacobson and Josh Ioane have sore heads:

                          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1157396435572273153?s=20

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Jacobson and Josh Ioane have sore heads:

                            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1157396435572273153?s=20

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                            @sparky said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                            Jacobson and Josh Ioane have sore heads:

                            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1157396435572273153?s=20

                            How does Ioane get concussed by not playing?

                            Must be some full on training.

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @sparky said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                              Jacobson and Josh Ioane have sore heads:

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1157396435572273153?s=20

                              How does Ioane get concussed by not playing?

                              Must be some full on training.

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                              @booboo expect he been running defence in contact trainings...

                              Jacobson a worry cos hadn't he had concussion Issues already this year?

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                Jacobson and Josh Ioane have sore heads:

                                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1157396435572273153?s=20

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                                @sparky said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                Jacobson and Josh Ioane have sore heads:

                                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1157396435572273153?s=20

                                Have they named the replacement player/s for these two yet?

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                                  I think they said Josh Ioane played for Otago vs Ta$man in preseason yesterday.

                                  @Higgins Hansen has said not needed given the size of the squad.

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                                    Well there goes my hope of Jacobson playing or being on the bench. Shit.

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                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12254877

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                                        Very disappointing for both players but hopefully not too serious. It does narrow down the options for the no.6 in Perth though.

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                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12254877

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                                          @canefan said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12254877

                                          That’s horrible, tough situation.

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