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Kirwan

Not so much, I was persuaded by that design because of the simplicity of it, and the fact it looks like a flag. Flags need to look good small and large, and the current fern designs look too busy IMO.

WillieTheWaiter

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Any flag shown in that setting would look spectacular, but in the cold harsh light of day it looks batshit boring as fuck and as a logo. 
I'd go far as to say the supposed ground swell in favour of peak engineering is due solely to that picture.
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every time I see that flag I'm just reminded of a british airways plane tail.
 
does nothing for me.

red terror

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every time I see that flag I'm just reminded of a british airways plane tail.
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I wish I was so lucky.
 
Every time I see "red peak," I see this:
 
<img src="http://www.bible-study-lessons.com/images/Dianetics-1.jpg" alt="Dianetics-1.jpg">
 
 
And lest you think I'm ridiculous, yes I am, the Sea Org uses a symbolic triangle to represent their volcano, too.
 
<img src="http://www.dianeticsredwoodcity.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/5square1.jpg" alt="5square1.jpg">
 
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">...the theory that Winger is a bot was one of the funniest things I've ever read on here...</blockquote>
 
(I was beginning to think maybe an Operating Thetan, Level III.)

Winger

<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.change.org/p/prime-minister-john-key-red-peaks-for-new-zealand-flag'>https://www.change.org/p/prime-minister-john-key-red-peaks-for-new-zealand-flag</a>
Just hit 50,000

No Quarter

Just hit the only 50,000 people that give a shit. 
Well I drove past a bar that was flying the AB Silver Fern flag next to another countries. And it looked fucking bad ass. I'm sold.

Winger

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Just hit the only 50,000 people that give a shit. 
Well I drove past a bar that was flying the AB Silver Fern flag next to another countries. And it looked fucking bad ass. I'm sold.
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But its not an option. And it can still be used regardless
 
And two similar but different fern flag will lessen the power of the black and white fern flag.
 
So keep the white fern on black for sports and as an alternative to fly at say a bar. But have another main flag. Like the Red Peak
 
You know it makes sense :i_am_so_happy:

taniwharugby

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But its not an option. And it can still be used regardless
 
And two similar but different fern flag will lessen the power of the black and white fern flag.
 
So keep the white fern on black for sports and as an alternative to fly at say a bar. But have another main flag. Like the Red Peak
 
You know it makes sense :i_am_so_happy:
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Nothing can lessen the power of the back flag with the white/silver fern, nothing! 
 
Must be a wild ride on planet Winger, do they do guided tours, or does it get all Jurrasic park on you?

red terror

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<img src="http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/6/q/9/g/d/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.16q8ww.png/1441679906915.jpg" alt="1441679906915.jpg">
 
 
I'd go far as to say the supposed ground swell in favour of peak engineering is due solely to that picture.
 
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<img src="https://41.media.tumblr.com/f641708cc464de65296e0744aa57e971/tumblr_inline_nupjw6YGnd1rzvgly_540.jpg" alt="tumblr_inline_nupjw6YGnd1rzvgly_540.jpg">
 
Thus Spake Zarathustra
 
<img src="https://40.media.tumblr.com/a03231927c9c814c28ca7b8655b518ea/tumblr_inline_nupjwc9NSo1rzvgly_540.jpg" alt="tumblr_inline_nupjwc9NSo1rzvgly_540.jpg">
 
Liberty Leading The People
 
<img src="https://41.media.tumblr.com/d5a5b502d5750c9f907c8f4e1ba98f04/tumblr_inline_nupjwi99Q41rzvgly_540.jpg" alt="tumblr_inline_nupjwi99Q41rzvgly_540.jpg">
 
Thus Spake Liberty
 
<img src="https://40.media.tumblr.com/d89a45fabdd6beb4fd4eb3655455b982/tumblr_inline_nupjwtt76r1rzvgly_540.jpg" alt="tumblr_inline_nupjwtt76r1rzvgly_540.jpg">
 
Thus Spake Peak Engineering Leading The People?

Virgil

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Thus Spake Zarathustra <img src="https://40.media.tumblr.com/a03231927c9c814c28ca7b8655b518ea/tumblr_inline_nupjwc9NSo1rzvgly_540.jpg" alt="tumblr_inline_nupjwc9NSo1rzvgly_540.jpg"> 
Liberty Leading The People <img src="https://41.media.tumblr.com/d5a5b502d5750c9f907c8f4e1ba98f04/tumblr_inline_nupjwi99Q41rzvgly_540.jpg" alt="tumblr_inline_nupjwi99Q41rzvgly_540.jpg"> 
Thus Spake Liberty <img src="https://40.media.tumblr.com/d89a45fabdd6beb4fd4eb3655455b982/tumblr_inline_nupjwtt76r1rzvgly_540.jpg" alt="tumblr_inline_nupjwtt76r1rzvgly_540.jpg"> 
Thus Spake Peak Engineering Leading The People?</blockquote>
 
Somewhere a tear is running down Wingers cheek.

Winger

This actually could make sense
 
If 50% or more vote to keep the current flag then its all over
 
If 50% or more vote to change then the winner in part B will compete against the current flag ina future referendum
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/72064224/Andrew-Little-offers-olive-branch-to-John-Key-on-Red-Peak-flag'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/72064224/Andrew-Little-offers-olive-branch-to-John-Key-on-Red-Peak-flag</a>
 
<img src="http://static.stuff.co.nz/files/Labourflagballot.jpg" alt="Labourflagballot.jpg">

taniwharugby

maybe they could manipulate it further, and just vote for which flag you like best, no 'no' vote, just line the 4 flags and the original up for the vote, with FPTP taking it out?
 
I think the process as it has been set out, is the best way to do it.

mariner4life

If they stick titties in the picture I'll vote for it

Virgil

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="515998" data-time="1442307117">If they stick titties in the picture I'll vote for it</blockquote>
 
DD's or EE's?

jegga

I think we all know the answer to that.

taniwharugby

you aren't fussy? :)

red terror

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Well I drove past a bar that was flying the AB Silver Fern flag next to another countries. And it looked fucking bad ass. I'm sold.
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Flying one off my house. Looks awesome.
 
(Edit: Mine doesn't say ABs, just the same stylized fern-only on black. (Who knows...? Could be a counterfeit bootleg...))

jegga

And this is why I call them leftards, they couldn't even get the colours on the flag right 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://m.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/09/labours_flag_incompetence.html'>http://m.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/09/labours_flag_incompetence.html</a> 
Or the voting system . Pathetic.

hydro11

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This actually could make sense
 
If 50% or more vote to keep the current flag then its all over
 
If 50% or more vote to change then the winner in part B will compete against the current flag ina future referendum
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/72064224/Andrew-Little-offers-olive-branch-to-John-Key-on-Red-Peak-flag'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/72064224/Andrew-Little-offers-olive-branch-to-John-Key-on-Red-Peak-flag</a>
 
<img src="http://static.stuff.co.nz/files/Labourflagballot.jpg" alt="Labourflagballot.jpg">
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No this is absolutely ridiculous. 70% of people could want a Silver Fern and be split on which fern. 30% could want Red Peak. Red Peak could win the referendum with 30% support and 70% against.

JC

And how would you weight the votes of someone who chose "Keep the existing NZ flag" in part A but also filled in a preference in part B? You could conceivably have a slight majority voting to keep the existing flag but a larger number voting for, say, Red Peak. Which part carries the mandate?
 
See this is why you need vexillologists on board.

Crucial

Vexing :think:

The Silver Fern

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