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    @sparky said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

    @pakman Yes, but only after I wrote down my squad and posts about it.

    Selectors might go for Liam Squire instead of Luke Jacobson.

    If it were me, I'd probably go for both.

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    @pakman I am not sure how to accommodate six backrow players. You could go for two half backs like England did and accommodate an extra backrow player, but big risk and I think Aaron Smith and TJP will need some rest across a long tournament.

    Retallick's injury means we need four locks. Scott Barrett or even a fit BBBR could play backrow against Namibia or Canada.

    Other option would be to leave behind Jordie or BFA. Jordie needed as third goal kicker. BFA clearly best fullback if BB injured.

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      @pakman I am not sure how to accommodate six backrow players. You could go for two half backs like England did and accommodate an extra backrow player, but big risk and I think Aaron Smith and TJP will need some rest across a long tournament.

      Retallick's injury means we need four locks. Scott Barrett or even a fit BBBR could play backrow against Namibia or Canada.

      Other option would be to leave behind Jordie or BFA. Jordie needed as third goal kicker. BFA clearly best fullback if BB injured.

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      @sparky said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

      @pakman I am not sure how to accommodate five backrow players. You could go for two half backs like England did and accommodate an extra backrow player, but big risk and I think Aaron Smith and TJP will need some rest across a long tournament.

      Retallick's injury means we need four locks. Scott Barrett or even a fit BBBR could play backrow against Namibia or Canada.

      Other option would be to leave behind Jordie or BFA. Jordie needed as third goal kicker. BFA clearly best fullback if BB injured.

      Is Todd no longer contracted to Wild Knights?

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        @pakman I am not sure how to accommodate six backrow players. You could go for two half backs like England did and accommodate an extra backrow player, but big risk and I think Aaron Smith and TJP will need some rest across a long tournament.

        Retallick's injury means we need four locks. Scott Barrett or even a fit BBBR could play backrow against Namibia or Canada.

        Other option would be to leave behind Jordie or BFA. Jordie needed as third goal kicker. BFA clearly best fullback if BB injured.

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        @sparky We will need at least 5 (One has to cover Lock) as BBR may not be back until really late too much work for 3 locks)The LF positions are massive collision area's we will get injuries amongst our LF's they may even take 6
        2 HB's or 4 Ouside backs plus BB.If they take 6.

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          @sparky said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

          @pakman I am not sure how to accommodate five backrow players. You could go for two half backs like England did and accommodate an extra backrow player, but big risk and I think Aaron Smith and TJP will need some rest across a long tournament.

          Retallick's injury means we need four locks. Scott Barrett or even a fit BBBR could play backrow against Namibia or Canada.

          Other option would be to leave behind Jordie or BFA. Jordie needed as third goal kicker. BFA clearly best fullback if BB injured.

          Is Todd no longer contracted to Wild Knights?

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          @pakman Todd will be in the main squad IMHO. They are picking Ardie as a 6/8 so far this year. Todd is the main back-up Openside.

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            @sparky We will need at least 5 (One has to cover Lock) as BBR may not be back until really late too much work for 3 locks)The LF positions are massive collision area's we will get injuries amongst our LF's they may even take 6
            2 HB's or 4 Ouside backs plus BB.If they take 6.

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            @CO Possibly. I think probably there will be a 17/14 forwards/backs split though.

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              @pakman Todd will be in the main squad IMHO. They are picking Ardie as a 6/8 so far this year. Todd is the main back-up Openside.

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              @sparky said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

              @pakman Todd will be in the main squad IMHO. They are picking Ardie as a 6/8 so far this year. Todd is the main back-up Openside.

              I don't disagree, but if it were me I'd rather have Luke Jacobson. My thinking is I'd want Ardie covering 7 against Boks & Poms, and Jacobson can cover 6 & 7 against more lightweight teams.

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                @CO Possibly. I think probably there will be a 17/14 forwards/backs split though.

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                @sparky that is the way most people are thinking.
                But I think it maybe an 18/13 split just an alternative view.
                It’s a gamble either way

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                  @canefan said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                  I'm not sure I would trust anyone else outside the group other than BB and Richie. If it comes to that we will making do anyway and a replacement is only a flight away

                  Holidays in Japan coming up for some players 🙂

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                  @nzzp said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                  @canefan said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                  I'm not sure I would trust anyone else outside the group other than BB and Richie. If it comes to that we will making do anyway and a replacement is only a flight away

                  Holidays in Japan coming up for some players 🙂

                  Jackson Hemopo is due to start playing in Japan straight after RWC. Even if he doesn't make RWC 31 he might move home early to Japan, just in case.

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                    Maybe I shouldn't try to read between the lines, but ...

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                      Maybe I shouldn't try to read between the lines, but ...

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                        @sparky I think you're not reading between the lines what I am reading. To me this reads like "not being selected for the RWC". If that's what it means, he/they has/have every right to be very disappointed.

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                          @sparky said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                          @pakman Todd will be in the main squad IMHO. They are picking Ardie as a 6/8 so far this year. Todd is the main back-up Openside.

                          I don't disagree, but if it were me I'd rather have Luke Jacobson. My thinking is I'd want Ardie covering 7 against Boks & Poms, and Jacobson can cover 6 & 7 against more lightweight teams.

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                          @pakman said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                          @sparky said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                          @pakman Todd will be in the main squad IMHO. They are picking Ardie as a 6/8 so far this year. Todd is the main back-up Openside.

                          I don't disagree, but if it were me I'd rather have Luke Jacobson. My thinking is I'd want Ardie covering 7 against Boks & Poms, and Jacobson can cover 6 & 7 against more lightweight teams.

                          For me key is the Scooter on bench can cover 4/6 against the big, slow teams and is lineout booster.

                          In those games Squire starts and Savea on bench.

                          Need someone to cover 7 against weaker teams if Savea or Cane rested.

                          Aganst lighter, faster, teams, if both Cane and Savea started then 7 is covered. Scooter or Read cover lock. Other bench loosie a hitter (Squire) or someone faster if pace the imperative. That's the real call for last place.

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                            @sparky I think you're not reading between the lines what I am reading. To me this reads like "not being selected for the RWC". If that's what it means, he/they has/have every right to be very disappointed.

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                            @Stargazer said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                            @sparky I think you're not reading between the lines what I am reading. To me this reads like "not being selected for the RWC". If that's what it means, he/they has/have every right to be very disappointed.

                            I read it as being grateful for Nani's support when he'd just lost brother.

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                              @sparky I think you're not reading between the lines what I am reading. To me this reads like "not being selected for the RWC". If that's what it means, he/they has/have every right to be very disappointed.

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                                @Stargazer said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:

                                @sparky I think you're not reading between the lines what I am reading. To me this reads like "not being selected for the RWC". If that's what it means, he/they has/have every right to be very disappointed.

                                I read it as being grateful for Nani's support when he'd just lost brother.

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                                @pakman That's another possibility!

                                Edit: Just saw his instagram stories, and I think you're right.

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                                      I reckon Josh Ioane has to go, probably needs to start against Tonga and a warm up game at least. Difference in 2011 was Cruden and Donald already had played for ABs and spent a lot of time in the environment. Ioane needs every minute he can in the environment. Reiko Ioane on the other hand loses out I think. They tried to play him into form at that failed, really low on confidence . I am guessing they go Jordie and Bender for wing cover maybe even play ALB there in a warmup game or two.

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                                        I reckon Josh Ioane has to go, probably needs to start against Tonga and a warm up game at least. Difference in 2011 was Cruden and Donald already had played for ABs and spent a lot of time in the environment. Ioane needs every minute he can in the environment. Reiko Ioane on the other hand loses out I think. They tried to play him into form at that failed, really low on confidence . I am guessing they go Jordie and Bender for wing cover maybe even play ALB there in a warmup game or two.

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                                        @DMX During Sunday's press conference, Hansen answered questions about Mo'unga's injury. It's an AC joint "issue", of which he said that - while not long-term - he'll be sore for a couple of weeks, hopefully not more. A journalist (Yalden?) then asked whether Hansen - for the Tongan game - would be able to use players from outside the RWC squad if players [named in the squad] were still unavailable. Hansen answered that with 'yes'. When the journalist then suggested that there would be a chance that Josh Ioane could get game time, Hansen literally said: "maybe, if Richie is not right. If Richie is right, he won't".

                                        I'm still waiting for the full media conference to be posted on YouTube.

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                                          @DMX During Sunday's press conference, Hansen answered questions about Mo'unga's injury. It's an AC joint "issue", of which he said that - while not long-term - he'll be sore for a couple of weeks, hopefully not more. A journalist (Yalden?) then asked whether Hansen - for the Tongan game - would be able to use players from outside the RWC squad if players [named in the squad] were still unavailable. Hansen answered that with 'yes'. When the journalist then suggested that there would be a chance that Josh Ioane could get game time, Hansen literally said: "maybe, if Richie is not right. If Richie is right, he won't".

                                          I'm still waiting for the full media conference to be posted on YouTube.

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                                          Of relevance to this thread?
                                          https://twitter.com/radiosportnz/status/1163023172494434304?s=17

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