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    @jegga said in Woo:

    @canefan said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    I'm going to fleetwood mac in Auckland in two weeks so thanks in advance you backward luddite moronic fluffybunnies .

    Are you thanking pro-diseasers or Fleetwood Mac? I'm unsure which 😉

    GFYs. We aren’t going , the vaccine won’t kick in in time . For some reason you can get a flu shot at most pharmacies but not many can do a measles shot so you have to go through a gp .

    700 confirmed cases in Auckland alone. Probably a good thing

    Concerts , planes and hotels seem like good places to catch it

    @canefan have you had a booster ? In your line of business there’s obviously a risk

    The stuff article does a great job of explaining the different groups that have bought into this bullshit and why it’s so dangerous. When I first heard about it in the early 2000s it was mostly hippy alternative types but the misinformation has spread out over social media .

    No. The last time I had one was during one of the annual scares at uni back in the early 90s. The internet says after two doses the vast majority of people should be immune for life. If I do get something I might sue my local anti-vaxx group

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    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

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    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

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    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    That's not going to affect the worst areas from 'informed decision' though. They think benefits are built in sat navs in their cars and public schools are for people wanting manual jobs.

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    #476

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

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    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free

    I thought most were free anyway?

    I know when they had the Meningicocal (sp) outbreak in Northland earlier in the year, my vaccinated son got a free vaccination of the new strain, however as my daughter wasnt in the 'at risk' age group, we had to pay for her, although she was vaccinated for the normal strain.

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    @Crucial said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    That's not going to affect the worst areas from 'informed decision' though. They think benefits are built in sat navs in their cars and public schools are for people wanting manual jobs.

    Still can't send their kids to school in that bracket. It seems to me that the pro-disease crowd have targeted a few groups, the poor/uneducated and the wealthier soccer mum types who think memes on facebook are research.

    Both groups would be affected by the school ban (and kindergarden), and it would highlight that they have a fringe belief and are harming society at large.

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    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    There’s lots of feral/hippy types that are pro disease , I’m sure a decent percentage are unemployable.

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    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    There’s lots of feral/hippy types that are pro disease , I’m sure a decent percentage are unemployable.

    I thought they mostly live off Mummy and Daddy's money (from selling their farms probably).

    I'd expect a Rudolph Steiner school to be a hotbed of anti vaxxers?

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  • canefanC Online
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    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    There’s lots of feral/hippy types that are pro disease , I’m sure a decent percentage are unemployable.

    Not to mention the pinot gris swilling middle class lefties. They are the worst because they are usually educated, have the benefit of financial solidity and should damn well know better

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    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    I'd be interested to see a study of the demographics of pro-disease people. No doubt the more vulnerable communities have been targeted, there were a bunch of billboards in South Auckland that got pulled (I was one of the people that filed a complaint) that were clearly targeting a particular demographic.

    If your name is Karen and you spend a lot of time on Facebook I'd say you are extremely high risk as well.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    I chuckled at that billboard described in the article “if you knew what was in a vaccine would you risk it?”
    More like “if you knew your homeopathic drops were simply water....”

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    There’s lots of feral/hippy types that are pro disease , I’m sure a decent percentage are unemployable.

    I thought they mostly live off Mummy and Daddy's money (from selling their farms probably).

    I'd expect a Rudolph Steiner school to be a hotbed of anti vaxxers?

    Maybe, there’s probably plenty of second or third generation deadshits who think avoiding vaccines is sticking it to the man .

    For example one of the losers who slashed the domes at the spy base caused an outbreak when he came to court for the trial . He was staying with other hippies and gave it to their kids .

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  • canefanC Online
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    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    There’s lots of feral/hippy types that are pro disease , I’m sure a decent percentage are unemployable.

    I thought they mostly live off Mummy and Daddy's money (from selling their farms probably).

    I'd expect a Rudolph Steiner school to be a hotbed of anti vaxxers?

    Maybe, there’s probably plenty of second or third generation deadshits who think avoiding vaccines is sticking it to the man .

    For example one of the losers who slashed the domes at the spy base caused an outbreak when he came to court for the trial . He was staying with other hippies and gave it to their kids .

    Karma's a bitch!

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @canefan said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    There’s lots of feral/hippy types that are pro disease , I’m sure a decent percentage are unemployable.

    I thought they mostly live off Mummy and Daddy's money (from selling their farms probably).

    I'd expect a Rudolph Steiner school to be a hotbed of anti vaxxers?

    Maybe, there’s probably plenty of second or third generation deadshits who think avoiding vaccines is sticking it to the man .

    For example one of the losers who slashed the domes at the spy base caused an outbreak when he came to court for the trial . He was staying with other hippies and gave it to their kids .

    Karma's a bitch!

    Although, not really the kid's fault their parents are idiots.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    The Stuff article above suggested a wide range of demographics that varied with region.

    I suppose it's proof that stupid widespread.

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  • JCJ Offline
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    @No-Quarter said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    I'd be interested to see a study of the demographics of pro-disease people. No doubt the more vulnerable communities have been targeted, there were a bunch of billboards in South Auckland that got pulled (I was one of the people that filed a complaint) that were clearly targeting a particular demographic.

    If your name is Karen and you spend a lot of time on Facebook I'd say you are extremely high risk as well.

    Not the whole story but there is an interactive from Stuff here that is pretty good.

    Michelle Duff, Andy Fyers

    The Parent Trap: When disinformation costs lives

    The Parent Trap: When disinformation costs lives

    The Parent Trap: Disinformation is driving down vaccination rates almost everywhere. And there is a measles epidemic threatening lives. It’s no coincidence.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Also there’s misinformation surrounding it like the ferner who informed us that gardisal is a waste of time because it doesn’t prevent cancer . Which is of course true , it prevents hpv which leads to a few type of cancers like cervical . I really loathe that kind of deliberate misinformation.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    replied to JC on last edited by
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    @JC said in Woo:

    @No-Quarter said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    I'd be interested to see a study of the demographics of pro-disease people. No doubt the more vulnerable communities have been targeted, there were a bunch of billboards in South Auckland that got pulled (I was one of the people that filed a complaint) that were clearly targeting a particular demographic.

    If your name is Karen and you spend a lot of time on Facebook I'd say you are extremely high risk as well.

    Not the whole story but there is an interactive from Stuff here that is pretty good.

    Michelle Duff, Andy Fyers

    The Parent Trap: When disinformation costs lives

    The Parent Trap: When disinformation costs lives

    The Parent Trap: Disinformation is driving down vaccination rates almost everywhere. And there is a measles epidemic threatening lives. It’s no coincidence.

    They’ve been great about not promoting pro disease lunacy and instead reporting on the causes of it , they also banned pro disease shills spreading their bullshit in their comments.

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    Ffs, its just bizarre the lengths these people go to https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/vaccines/measles-measles-everywhere/

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