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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Also there’s misinformation surrounding it like the ferner who informed us that gardisal is a waste of time because it doesn’t prevent cancer . Which is of course true , it prevents hpv which leads to a few type of cancers like cervical . I really loathe that kind of deliberate misinformation.

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    @JC said in Woo:

    @No-Quarter said in Woo:

    @Nepia said in Woo:

    @Kirwan said in Woo:

    @Crucial said in Woo:

    Provide vaccines for free, even with mobile dispensaries, make it compulsory and then treat non compliance like drink driving.
    We are not allowed to drink and drive because it endangers lives and creates massive cost to society (both emotional and financial).
    I see no difference.

    Yep. I'd also link benefit payments to it, and restrict access to public services (like schools).

    I thought it wasn't really the beneficiary types that were anti vaxxers?

    edit: Although I assume a bunch of anti vaxxers get WFF?

    I'd be interested to see a study of the demographics of pro-disease people. No doubt the more vulnerable communities have been targeted, there were a bunch of billboards in South Auckland that got pulled (I was one of the people that filed a complaint) that were clearly targeting a particular demographic.

    If your name is Karen and you spend a lot of time on Facebook I'd say you are extremely high risk as well.

    Not the whole story but there is an interactive from Stuff here that is pretty good.

    Michelle Duff, Andy Fyers

    The Parent Trap: When disinformation costs lives

    The Parent Trap: When disinformation costs lives

    The Parent Trap: Disinformation is driving down vaccination rates almost everywhere. And there is a measles epidemic threatening lives. It’s no coincidence.

    They’ve been great about not promoting pro disease lunacy and instead reporting on the causes of it , they also banned pro disease shills spreading their bullshit in their comments.

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    Ffs, its just bizarre the lengths these people go to https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/vaccines/measles-measles-everywhere/

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    @jegga said in Woo:

    Ffs, its just bizarre the lengths these people go to https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/vaccines/measles-measles-everywhere/

    If it was just ignorance that would be one thing, but that is just wilful, dangerous lies. I’d have no problem with the government instructing sites like that to require a banner saying the authors are lying sacks of shit who are encouraging child abuse.

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    @jegga said in Woo:

    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Also there’s misinformation surrounding it like the ferner who informed us that gardisal is a waste of time because it doesn’t prevent cancer . Which is of course true , it prevents hpv which leads to a few type of cancers like cervical . I really loathe that kind of deliberate misinformation.

    Keep better records and tax anti-vaxxers. They need to help pay for the burden on the health system that they create

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    @jegga said in Woo:

    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Given that HPV can prevent genital warts, I would have thought promiscuous behaviour unlikely. Who wants to shag some pox ridden slag too stupid too immunise? What other diseases has she got? I won't comment on religion.

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    @Snowy said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Who wants to shag some pox ridden slag too stupid too immunise?

    That would be @jegga . Oh sorry, was that a rhetorical question?

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    @JC said in Woo:

    @Snowy said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Who wants to shag some pox ridden slag too stupid too immunise?

    That would be @jegga . Oh sorry, was that a rhetorical question?

    Given @jegga 's views on anti vaxxers even he might hesitate (briefly).

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    @JC said in Woo:

    @Snowy said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Who wants to shag some pox ridden slag too stupid too immunise?

    That would be @jegga . Oh sorry, was that a rhetorical question?

    GFYs

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    @Snowy said in Woo:

    @JC said in Woo:

    @Snowy said in Woo:

    @jegga said in Woo:

    There’s also a rejection of the hpv vaccine in some of our more religious communities because they think it leads to promiscuous behaviour.

    Who wants to shag some pox ridden slag too stupid too immunise?

    That would be @jegga . Oh sorry, was that a rhetorical question?

    Given @jegga 's views on anti vaxxers even he might hesitate (briefly).

    GFYs too

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    The anti hpv vaccine crowd use this case as evidence that its deadly, note the last paragraph of the coroners findings .

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/76303256/

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    Lance O’Sullivan says what we all think...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12264246

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    @JC Get the man a knighthood.

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    Regarding HPV - had it been around for a bit longer (I think only about 15 years) I probably wouldn't have a 38 year old employee (mother of 2 young children) with cervical cancer. She's just finished all of her chemo and radiation. Fingers crossed for her, she's awesome.

    Anti vaxxers (as @jegga would say) GFYs.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @Snowy said in Woo:

    Regarding HPV - had it been around for a bit longer (I think only about 15 years) I probably wouldn't have a 38 year old employee (mother of 2 young children) with cervical cancer. She's just finished all of her chemo and radiation. Fingers crossed for her, she's awesome.

    Anti vaxxers (as @jegga would say) GFYs.

    Men should get it too , there was a guy on TB a whole back campaigning for men to get vaccinated. He’d lost the roof of his mouth and the inside of his nose to surgery to remove a cancer linked to hpv.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    Just booked in for my measles shot , the ministry of health is recommending anyone aged between 30 and 50 get a shot . It takes two weeks to be fully effective.

    There should be a concerted campaign from schools , daycares , government and insurance companies to make life incredibly difficult and expensive for anti vaxxers .

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    @JC said in Woo:

    Lance O’Sullivan says what we all think...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12264246

    New Zealand's leaders needed to make decisions that were "bold and courageous and sometimes not always that popular", he said.

    Why wouldn't it be popular? It's only a shrieking minority that won't like it.

    Sums up our current state of worrying about the appearance of being unpopular on the interwebs.

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    Just further to the above ...

    The article goes on:

    He said 5 per cent of the country would hate him - referring to anti-vaxxers as a "bunch of haters and wreckers and scaremongers that are out there causing harm".

    So 95% likely support it? Sounds popular to me!

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @booboo said in Woo:

    @JC said in Woo:

    Lance O’Sullivan says what we all think...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12264246

    New Zealand's leaders needed to make decisions that were "bold and courageous and sometimes not always that popular", he said.

    Why wouldn't it be popular? It's only a shrieking minority that won't like it.

    Shrieking minority? Freedom of decisions without govt interference? Seems there are some conflictions there.

    But he is correct. Govts need to be very strong to push through this kind of law.

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    @Crucial said in Woo:

    @booboo said in Woo:

    @JC said in Woo:

    Lance O’Sullivan says what we all think...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12264246

    New Zealand's leaders needed to make decisions that were "bold and courageous and sometimes not always that popular", he said.

    Why wouldn't it be popular? It's only a shrieking minority that won't like it.

    Shrieking minority? Freedom of decisions without govt interference? Seems there are some conflictions there.

    But he is correct. Govts need to be very strong to push through this kind of law.

    Sorry am missing your point.

    Who said anything about freedom from government interference?

    (And by the way name pretty much any activity that is free from government interference.)

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