RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B)
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All Blacks v Namibia: Jack Goodhue shines on the Rugby World Cup centre stage
Ummmm, I think he's messed his midfield players up
@Machpants maybe he meant Goodhue outshone by his mid-field partner?
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@Machpants maybe he meant Goodhue outshone by his mid-field partner?
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Machpants maybe he meant Goodhue outshone by his mid-field partner?
It's 'stuff.co.nz' so remember it's bizarro world. Either the Namibian centre did awesome or ALB.
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All Blacks v Namibia: Jack Goodhue shines on the Rugby World Cup centre stage
Ummmm, I think he's messed his midfield players up
@Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
All Blacks v Namibia: Jack Goodhue shines on the Rugby World Cup centre stage
Ummmm, I think he's messed his midfield players up
I'll add a bit of classic NH stuff from Guardian
HEADLINE All Blacks fall behind before brushing aside brave Namibia at Rugby World Cup
New Zealand rack up 11 tries in 71-9 Pool B demolition
Namibia took lead in first half before floodgates openedLol the 3 points they lead by was really a key point of the game
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Another point on the YCs which has already been alluded to is the inconsistency. There is regular contact with the head on front rowers going low into the tackle around the ruck. It seems quite random which ones get called up.
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On the game itself. Credit to Namibia for playing to the ref and disrupting the breakdown. They played with a lot of heart and can be proud of that effort.
Also have to give us credit for riding it out and then stepping it up a gear to blow them away from around 30 minutes onwards. I'm very happy with the performance overall.
Jordie was good at 10 and is pretty clearly the 3rd best 10 in NZ right now. That won't last, Ioane (and I'm sure other young 10s) will get better but he's way too green to be playing 10 for the ABs at the RWC. Good decision from the selectors.
ALB is just amazing. What a player he has become, I'd have him over any other centre in the world right now. Everything he does is all class.
Ardie can play 6, 7 or 8 and dominate. He is also some player now.
Also thought Pat T was very strong again. He's a weapon off the bench for us now, finally playing to his potential on a consistent basis.
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Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.
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Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.
We like to think they are robots, but players have feelings as well. Desire does count for something when the margins are fine
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Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
You may not like it. You may not agree with it.
BUT THIS IS HOW THIS WC IS BEING REFEREED.
As I wrote yesterday, evolve or die.
Namibia were game and played some high tempo, inventive rugby fair play. They opened up the ABs defence quite easily at times, just didn't have the skill to finish their chances.
And the NZ covering defence was superb.
That's your 9, 11, 13, 14 sorted as far as I'm concerned.
Mo' to 10, SBW to 12, BB to 15 with BFA to the wing or bench
I'd go with Ardie at 8, Cane at 7, Read at 6
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Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
You may not like it. You may not agree with it.
BUT THIS IS HOW THIS WC IS BEING REFEREED.
As I wrote yesterday, evolve or die.
Namibia were game and played some high tempo, inventive rugby fair play. They opened up the ABs defence quite easily at times, just didn't have the skill to finish their chances.
And the NZ covering defence was superb.
That's your 9, 11, 13, 14 sorted as far as I'm concerned.
Mo' to 10, SBW to 12, BB to 15 with BFA to the wing or bench
I'd go with Ardie at 8, Cane at 7, Read at 6
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
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Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
You may not like it. You may not agree with it.
BUT THIS IS HOW THIS WC IS BEING REFEREED.
As I wrote yesterday, evolve or die.
Namibia were game and played some high tempo, inventive rugby fair play. They opened up the ABs defence quite easily at times, just didn't have the skill to finish their chances.
And the NZ covering defence was superb.
That's your 9, 11, 13, 14 sorted as far as I'm concerned.
Mo' to 10, SBW to 12, BB to 15 with BFA to the wing or bench
I'd go with Ardie at 8, Cane at 7, Read at 6
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping, they'd have been perfect tackles.
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Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.
Also shows how important the media manager’s job is and getting the talking points out as quickly as possible so everyone’s message is the same....
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Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
You may not like it. You may not agree with it.
BUT THIS IS HOW THIS WC IS BEING REFEREED.
As I wrote yesterday, evolve or die.
Namibia were game and played some high tempo, inventive rugby fair play. They opened up the ABs defence quite easily at times, just didn't have the skill to finish their chances.
And the NZ covering defence was superb.
That's your 9, 11, 13, 14 sorted as far as I'm concerned.
Mo' to 10, SBW to 12, BB to 15 with BFA to the wing or bench
I'd go with Ardie at 8, Cane at 7, Read at 6
@MiketheSnow ‘But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping, they'd have been perfect tackles.
@antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping, they'd have been perfect tackles.
See my response above
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@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
The players have to use the arms to grapple only now, no swinging in the arms. Which is tough because it has been allowed since for ages
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@MiketheSnow ‘But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow ‘But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.
Oh there he is
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow ‘But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.
Oh there he is
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I thought there was a fairly clear difference between the 2 YC's, and this game could have been used to create a proper line of judgement. While both incidents saw a similar attacking position, the 1st from Nepo had a clear swinging arm. I'm OK with a penalty, and as we all know, any time you give a away a penalty, you put yourself in the refs hands WRT a card. The 2nd incident though, I really didn't think Ofa swung the arm, and I didn't think it at all worthy of a penalty (let alone a card).
I would add that I have zero issue with contact to the head or neck when an attacker puts himself in that situation - why do we completely absolve the attacking player of their responsibilities? If you want to run that low at someone, the defender must have a right to try to stop you, and if you're leading with head, neck and shoulders, then that's what will get tackled first. Not with a swinging arm, but with a fierce brick fucking wall of arms, body, then shoulder.
If we let this shit continue, we will see Kees Meeuws come out of retirement and make a late run for AB's highest ever try scorer.
