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RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B)

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    Said it earlier, so not wanting to sound like a stuck record, but I’ll be surprised if players, coaches , are not looking to exploit this by instructing players to fall at the last moment before contact

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    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

      @westcoastie said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

      @kev said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

      @No-Quarter you have to wrap your arms, you can’t lead with your shoulder. Have to stand in front and let them hit you, or let them go past and tackle from side.

      push the ball carrier into the turf and fall on them.

      I think the confusion stems from setting yourself low initially, then he falls , it’s hard to mark adjustments , especially if you are a big bloke

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      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

      @westcoastie said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

      @kev said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

      @No-Quarter you have to wrap your arms, you can’t lead with your shoulder. Have to stand in front and let them hit you, or let them go past and tackle from side.

      push the ball carrier into the turf and fall on them.

      I think the confusion stems from setting yourself low initially, then he falls , it’s hard to mark adjustments , especially if you are a big bloke

      Yeah, you're expecting to hit a waist and have less than half a second to change?

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

        Just let them fall over then attack the ball fuck heads.

        I'll say this again, these guys are falling. Let them but the ground

        Jordie amazing 80 and 80 in 4 days. ALB and Ardie other top 3.

        Jordie for canes 10

        At full speed that decision cannot be made, it's ridiculous to even suggest it

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        @mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

        Just let them fall over then attack the ball fuck heads.

        I'll say this again, these guys are falling. Let them but the ground

        Jordie amazing 80 and 80 in 4 days. ALB and Ardie other top 3.

        Jordie for canes 10

        At full speed that decision cannot be made, it's ridiculous to even suggest it

        Go easy, M4L, he is a winger after all...

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        • boobooB booboo

          @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

          Comments before I read the thread.

          Flush the dunny on that first half.

          Aaron FFS you're fucking Aaron Smith. What the fuck was that?

          Ref made some really random calls to keep Namibs close, the van Jaarsveld flop over the ruck then penalise Whitelock, followed immediately by the forward pass in midfield as an example.

          Jordie's first two kicks worried me but he was goid from the tee after that.

          Our ruck work was incredibly untidy in the first forty.

          Why did we take so long to work out that Laulala's 10 minutes was up?

          POTDs for me were Ardie, Frizell and Jordie.

          Oh yeah. How good was van Jaarsveld? What a pain in the arse was he? Not always legal but fun to watch.

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          @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

          @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

          Comments before I read the thread.

          Flush the dunny on that first half.

          Aaron FFS you're fucking Aaron Smith. What the fuck was that?

          Ref made some really random calls to keep Namibs close, the van Jaarsveld flop over the ruck then penalise Whitelock, followed immediately by the forward pass in midfield as an example.

          Jordie's first two kicks worried me but he was goid from the tee after that.

          Our ruck work was incredibly untidy in the first forty.

          Why did we take so long to work out that Laulala's 10 minutes was up?

          POTDs for me were Ardie, Frizell and Jordie.

          Oh yeah. How good was van Jaarsveld? What a pain in the arse was he? Not always legal but fun to watch.

          Hope he gets some job offers after today

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          • MokeyM Offline
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            First 30 mins was pretty rubbish, the boys looked like they'd barely met and Namibia were making line breaks at will. Second half some bloody great tries scored, especially TJ's. Glad Jordie found his kicking boots, those first two were not vintage.

            I understand the YC call on Laulala, anything near the neck they are going to get pissy about, but it's pretty rough when the dude was low and falling to start. There should be some onus on the attacking player to protect himself as well as the defender tackling with good technique.

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            • SiamS Siam

              @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

              @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

              Comments before I read the thread.

              Flush the dunny on that first half.

              Aaron FFS you're fucking Aaron Smith. What the fuck was that?

              Ref made some really random calls to keep Namibs close, the van Jaarsveld flop over the ruck then penalise Whitelock, followed immediately by the forward pass in midfield as an example.

              Jordie's first two kicks worried me but he was goid from the tee after that.

              Our ruck work was incredibly untidy in the first forty.

              Why did we take so long to work out that Laulala's 10 minutes was up?

              POTDs for me were Ardie, Frizell and Jordie.

              Oh yeah. How good was van Jaarsveld? What a pain in the arse was he? Not always legal but fun to watch.

              Hope he gets some job offers after today

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              @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

              @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

              @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

              Comments before I read the thread.

              Flush the dunny on that first half.

              Aaron FFS you're fucking Aaron Smith. What the fuck was that?

              Ref made some really random calls to keep Namibs close, the van Jaarsveld flop over the ruck then penalise Whitelock, followed immediately by the forward pass in midfield as an example.

              Jordie's first two kicks worried me but he was goid from the tee after that.

              Our ruck work was incredibly untidy in the first forty.

              Why did we take so long to work out that Laulala's 10 minutes was up?

              POTDs for me were Ardie, Frizell and Jordie.

              Oh yeah. How good was van Jaarsveld? What a pain in the arse was he? Not always legal but fun to watch.

              Hope he gets some job offers after today

              I assume he already earns a good salary at Bayonne (currently sitting third in the Top 14).

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                Comments before I read the thread.

                Flush the dunny on that first half.

                Aaron FFS you're fucking Aaron Smith. What the fuck was that?

                Ref made some really random calls to keep Namibs close, the van Jaarsveld flop over the ruck then penalise Whitelock, followed immediately by the forward pass in midfield as an example.

                Jordie's first two kicks worried me but he was goid from the tee after that.

                Our ruck work was incredibly untidy in the first forty.

                Why did we take so long to work out that Laulala's 10 minutes was up?

                POTDs for me were Ardie, Frizell and Jordie.

                Oh yeah. How good was van Jaarsveld? What a pain in the arse was he? Not always legal but fun to watch.

                Hope he gets some job offers after today

                I assume he already earns a good salary at Bayonne (currently sitting third in the Top 14).

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                #621

                @Stargazer 👍 ahh, there goes my scouting career

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                  Clear MOM for ALB today. Clean-outs, offloads, bursts, tackles - everything. Thought Ta'avao and Cane were the next best. Jordie did very well after a nervous start. Aaron Smith and Frizzell a bit sloppy at times. The card calls on our props are tough. Saw similar hits by Namibia (e.g. on Ben Smith), but not pulled up. Don't know what players or refs can do to sort the mess with this.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    @mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    Just let them fall over then attack the ball fuck heads.

                    I'll say this again, these guys are falling. Let them but the ground

                    Jordie amazing 80 and 80 in 4 days. ALB and Ardie other top 3.

                    Jordie for canes 10

                    At full speed that decision cannot be made, it's ridiculous to even suggest it

                    At 120 kgs , you have you legs bent . Crouching, assuming good low body position and he dives in , its fucken difficult to make adjustments split second

                    No apparently you just back out and leave him. No sweat.

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                    #623

                    @mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    @mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                    Just let them fall over then attack the ball fuck heads.

                    I'll say this again, these guys are falling. Let them but the ground

                    Jordie amazing 80 and 80 in 4 days. ALB and Ardie other top 3.

                    Jordie for canes 10

                    At full speed that decision cannot be made, it's ridiculous to even suggest it

                    At 120 kgs , you have you legs bent . Crouching, assuming good low body position and he dives in , its fucken difficult to make adjustments split second

                    No apparently you just back out and leave him. No sweat.

                    And the wait until you have ball and then you can go diving at the defenders' knees willy-nilly - watch the crowds flock to watch that spectacle!

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                      All Blacks v Namibia: Jack Goodhue shines on the Rugby World Cup centre stage

                      Ummmm, I think he's messed his midfield players up

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116361452/all-blacks-v-namibia-jack-goodhue-shines-on-the-rugby-world-cup-centre-stage

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                      • M Machpants

                        All Blacks v Namibia: Jack Goodhue shines on the Rugby World Cup centre stage

                        Ummmm, I think he's messed his midfield players up

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116361452/all-blacks-v-namibia-jack-goodhue-shines-on-the-rugby-world-cup-centre-stage

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                        @Machpants maybe he meant Goodhue outshone by his mid-field partner?

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Machpants maybe he meant Goodhue outshone by his mid-field partner?

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                          @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                          @Machpants maybe he meant Goodhue outshone by his mid-field partner?

                          It's 'stuff.co.nz' so remember it's bizarro world. Either the Namibian centre did awesome or ALB.

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                          • M Machpants

                            All Blacks v Namibia: Jack Goodhue shines on the Rugby World Cup centre stage

                            Ummmm, I think he's messed his midfield players up

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116361452/all-blacks-v-namibia-jack-goodhue-shines-on-the-rugby-world-cup-centre-stage

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                            #627

                            @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                            All Blacks v Namibia: Jack Goodhue shines on the Rugby World Cup centre stage

                            Ummmm, I think he's messed his midfield players up

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116361452/all-blacks-v-namibia-jack-goodhue-shines-on-the-rugby-world-cup-centre-stage

                            I'll add a bit of classic NH stuff from Guardian

                            HEADLINE All Blacks fall behind before brushing aside brave Namibia at Rugby World Cup
                            New Zealand rack up 11 tries in 71-9 Pool B demolition
                            Namibia took lead in first half before floodgates opened

                            Lol the 3 points they lead by was really a key point of the game

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                              Another point on the YCs which has already been alluded to is the inconsistency. There is regular contact with the head on front rowers going low into the tackle around the ruck. It seems quite random which ones get called up.

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                                Anyone else need a quiet day at work tomorrow? I may have made too sure I stayed hydrated watching that .

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                                  On the game itself. Credit to Namibia for playing to the ref and disrupting the breakdown. They played with a lot of heart and can be proud of that effort.

                                  Also have to give us credit for riding it out and then stepping it up a gear to blow them away from around 30 minutes onwards. I'm very happy with the performance overall.

                                  Jordie was good at 10 and is pretty clearly the 3rd best 10 in NZ right now. That won't last, Ioane (and I'm sure other young 10s) will get better but he's way too green to be playing 10 for the ABs at the RWC. Good decision from the selectors.

                                  ALB is just amazing. What a player he has become, I'd have him over any other centre in the world right now. Everything he does is all class.

                                  Ardie can play 6, 7 or 8 and dominate. He is also some player now.

                                  Also thought Pat T was very strong again. He's a weapon off the bench for us now, finally playing to his potential on a consistent basis.

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                                    Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.

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                                      Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.

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                                      @chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                                      Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how “Attitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.

                                      We like to think they are robots, but players have feelings as well. Desire does count for something when the margins are fine

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                                        Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.

                                        Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.

                                        If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

                                        You may not like it. You may not agree with it.

                                        BUT THIS IS HOW THIS WC IS BEING REFEREED.

                                        As I wrote yesterday, evolve or die.

                                        Namibia were game and played some high tempo, inventive rugby fair play. They opened up the ABs defence quite easily at times, just didn't have the skill to finish their chances.

                                        And the NZ covering defence was superb.

                                        That's your 9, 11, 13, 14 sorted as far as I'm concerned.

                                        Mo' to 10, SBW to 12, BB to 15 with BFA to the wing or bench

                                        I'd go with Ardie at 8, Cane at 7, Read at 6

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.

                                          Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.

                                          If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

                                          You may not like it. You may not agree with it.

                                          BUT THIS IS HOW THIS WC IS BEING REFEREED.

                                          As I wrote yesterday, evolve or die.

                                          Namibia were game and played some high tempo, inventive rugby fair play. They opened up the ABs defence quite easily at times, just didn't have the skill to finish their chances.

                                          And the NZ covering defence was superb.

                                          That's your 9, 11, 13, 14 sorted as far as I'm concerned.

                                          Mo' to 10, SBW to 12, BB to 15 with BFA to the wing or bench

                                          I'd go with Ardie at 8, Cane at 7, Read at 6

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):

                                          Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.

                                          Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.

                                          If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

                                          No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game

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