RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B)
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@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
If my Aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. The discussion isn't whether hitting someone in the head becomes an instant YC according to the World Rugby matrix. It's what the player can do in the limited time available to mitigate against a player diving into the tackle.
Ofa lines him up to tackle him around the waist.
Once again; had the Namibian not dived so low into contact, the tackle would have been perfectly legitimate.
This isn't (or shouldn't) be difficult to understand.
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@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
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@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
A feud ? Awesome, just let me pour another drink before you get into it
you don't have a bottle within arms reach before logging into TSF???
And here I thought I was getting to know you...
I most certainly did , in fact I’m drinking right now .
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@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
What if the player leads with their head and the ball is inline with their head?
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
What if the player leads with their head and the ball is inline with their head?
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
What if the player leads with their head and the ball is inline with their head?
What do you mean, he's kissing it in the act of scoring? Or it's balanced against his ear?
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@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
What if the player leads with their head and the ball is inline with their head?
What do you mean, he's kissing it in the act of scoring? Or it's balanced against his ear?
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
What if the player leads with their head and the ball is inline with their head?
What do you mean, he's kissing it in the act of scoring? Or it's balanced against his ear?
I mean the players torso is at or past horizontal so the head is blocking the ball.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
What if the player leads with their head and the ball is inline with their head?
What do you mean, he's kissing it in the act of scoring? Or it's balanced against his ear?
I mean the players torso is at or past horizontal so the head is blocking the ball.
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses
And here come the insults right on cue.
How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?
I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.
If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.
What if the player leads with their head and the ball is inline with their head?
What do you mean, he's kissing it in the act of scoring? Or it's balanced against his ear?
I mean the players torso is at or past horizontal so the head is blocking the ball.
Then you hit them as hard as you can in the midriff and hope they buckle and cough up the ball.
If they don't, hold on to the ball, and score that's still a better result than giving away a possible penalty try and YC.
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@MiketheSnow ‘But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.
@MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow ‘But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.
Dude you're getting boring
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@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
Tu'ungafasi's wasn't a swinging arm, though. Laulala's would have been a penalty without the high shot, which would have been OK IMO. Both YCs were only issued because the Namibian players went waist-high into contact.
I liked the approach they had five years ago, where intent was more important than outcome.
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@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
But but what if you can't have a positive result for your team without infringing?
See above.
If you don't infringe and they score, you're still on the park and have an opportunity to influence the outcome of the match.
If you infringe, get penalised, and get sent for 10mins or more the opposition may still have scored and you have no opportunity to influence the outcome of the match whilst you're off.
And you make it harder on your teammates.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
Tu'ungafasi's wasn't a swinging arm, though. Laulala's would have been a penalty without the high shot, which would have been OK IMO. Both YCs were only issued because the Namibian players went waist-high into contact.
I liked the approach they had five years ago, where intent was more important than outcome.
@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool B):
Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.
No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game
Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.
It hit the head, so YC.
If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.
I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.
Tu'ungafasi's wasn't a swinging arm, though. Laulala's would have been a penalty without the high shot, which would have been OK IMO. Both YCs were only issued because the Namibian players went waist-high into contact.
I liked the approach they had five years ago, where intent was more important than outcome.
The ref penalised both players for swinging arms.
