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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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    I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

    But when do the name the candidates or do they?

    Thursday?

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      I agree with what Mains had to say there

      To me Robertson is a good candidate for an assistant coach. I don't want him for the head coach for the reasons Mains describes.

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      @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      I agree with what Mains had to say there

      To me Robertson is a good candidate for an assistant coach. I don't want him for the head coach for the reasons Mains describes.

      I can never take mains seriously. Just about the worst winning percentage of any recent AB coach. Including losing to that world XV at home. Not to mentio the French in 1994.

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      • D Darren

        I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

        But when do the name the candidates or do they?

        Thursday?

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        @Darren said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

        Foster would obviously be a continuation of the current selections/tactics. Robertson would probably be the next closest.

        I think every other candidate would make more significant changes.

        What do you mean by most 'diverse'? Robertson would have the most narrow cv?

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        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

          @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          I agree with what Mains had to say there

          To me Robertson is a good candidate for an assistant coach. I don't want him for the head coach for the reasons Mains describes.

          I can never take mains seriously. Just about the worst winning percentage of any recent AB coach. Including losing to that world XV at home. Not to mentio the French in 1994.

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          @Billy-Tell said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          I can never take mains seriously. Just about the worst winning percentage of any recent AB coach. Including losing to that world XV at home. Not to mentio the French in 1994.

          'The All Blacks need a coach not a Laurie'

          I agree. Doesn't make him wrong on everything though.. his comments on the possible coaches were spot on

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            Gatland would be my dream ticket with Brown as attack coach, and Robertson as forwards coach (and as apprentice to take over from Gatland in head role after 2023).

            Let Gatland take a sabbatical during his British Lions year, and Robertson steps up for a year as job experience bonus.

            I dont think theres any coaching IP left to be worried about Gatland taking with him on his sabbatical.

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            • broughieB broughie

              @Chester-Draws Blackadder? Whenever I hear that name I think role player and plodder, kind of like a draught horse. We need dynamic big and strong players at international level.

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              @broughie said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @Chester-Draws Blackadder? Whenever I hear that name I think role player and plodder, kind of like a draught horse. We need dynamic big and strong players at international level.

              Smiley Barrett was a role player and plodder, kind of like a draught horse...

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                  "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                  See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                  "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                  See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

                  Happens on the fern daily

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                    "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                    See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

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                    @ACT-Crusader

                    It's more common in the NH too. I think some coaches like to take the pressure off the players by making the enormous media concentrate on them.

                    For instance, Hansen was a complete twat when he coached Wales and it seemed like he was forcing controversy with every comment

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                      "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                      https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                      See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

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                      @ACT-Crusader

                      Being passionate is one thing. Acting like a soccer manager is another.

                      Loathe this sort of stuff no matter where it comes from.

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @ACT-Crusader

                        It's more common in the NH too. I think some coaches like to take the pressure off the players by making the enormous media concentrate on them.

                        For instance, Hansen was a complete twat when he coached Wales and it seemed like he was forcing controversy with every comment

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                        @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        It's more common in the NH too. I think some coaches like to take the pressure off the players by making the enormous media concentrate on them.

                        Maybe. But I'm thinking "Big ego....look at me!"

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Darren said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

                          Foster would obviously be a continuation of the current selections/tactics. Robertson would probably be the next closest.

                          I think every other candidate would make more significant changes.

                          What do you mean by most 'diverse'? Robertson would have the most narrow cv?

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                          @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          What do you mean by most 'diverse'? Robertson would have the most narrow cv?

                          He lives in a different part of Christchurch than Hansen.

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                            Recent comments from Rennie:

                            “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                            “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                            So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              Recent comments from Rennie:

                              “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                              “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                              So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

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                              @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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                                @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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                                @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

                                I'm sure "I wont leave earlier" wouldn't stick so hard and fast if the job was the ABs as opposed to the Wobblies.

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                                  @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

                                  I'm sure "I wont leave earlier" wouldn't stick so hard and fast if the job was the ABs as opposed to the Wobblies.

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                                  @Nepia said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

                                  I'm sure "I wont leave earlier" wouldn't stick so hard and fast if the job was the ABs as opposed to the Wobblies.

                                  Exactly. The main point is that he hasn't signed with the ARU yet as the media was reporting.

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                                    @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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                                    @Machpants he's worked with Wayne Smith before, surely Wayne could work with the team until Rennie arrives, and then just stick around and help.

                                    So who would Rennie bring with him as assistants?

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                                      Graham Mourie spoke on RS yesterday about the process of applying/appointing a coach.

                                      https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-air/darcy-waldegrave-drive/audio/how-to-appoint-an-all-black-coach/

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                                      • HigginsH Higgins

                                        @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

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                                        @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

                                        So you recall Muck Byrne?

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @Machpants he's worked with Wayne Smith before, surely Wayne could work with the team until Rennie arrives, and then just stick around and help.

                                          So who would Rennie bring with him as assistants?

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                                          @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          @Machpants he's worked with Wayne Smith before, surely Wayne could work with the team until Rennie arrives, and then just stick around and help.

                                          So who would Rennie bring with him as assistants?

                                          I don’t have any issues with Wayne Smith, but I’m kinda looking forward to a completely new setup with guys that haven’t been involved in the recent past.

                                          So if we don’t have to I’m hoping three brand newbies that can bring in something fresh and also grow and learn together.

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