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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • TimT Tim

    @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

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    @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

    Don't disagree - but it wasn't as rubbish as our attack or our forwards. Facts are we thought they'd get around twenty points and they did. Based on our attack the week before, I thought we'd get to high twenties/low thirties but actually we just sucked.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

      Don't disagree - but it wasn't as rubbish as our attack or our forwards. Facts are we thought they'd get around twenty points and they did. Based on our attack the week before, I thought we'd get to high twenties/low thirties but actually we just sucked.

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      @nzzp shades of Perth...

      if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

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        @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

        Don't disagree - but it wasn't as rubbish as our attack or our forwards. Facts are we thought they'd get around twenty points and they did. Based on our attack the week before, I thought we'd get to high twenties/low thirties but actually we just sucked.

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        @nzzp said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

        Don't disagree - but it wasn't as rubbish as our attack or our forwards. Facts are we thought they'd get around twenty points and they did. Based on our attack the week before, I thought we'd get to high twenties/low thirties but actually we just sucked.

        Main problem was the breakdown. 18 turnovers and 11 penalties.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @nzzp shades of Perth...

          if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

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          @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          @nzzp shades of Perth...

          if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

          remember in Perth we were in the game when the Red happened to ScoBa. 2 points in it, despite being belted up front. Our forwards need a major overhaul, btu I can't see anyone they've left out that will make a difference.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @nzzp shades of Perth...

            if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

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            @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            @nzzp shades of Perth...

            if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

            It shouldn't though, as this game isn't against England. Last week wasn't game one of a series to find the best team in the World. Smashing Wales (if that happens) doesn't make up for last week's embarrassment. They should all continue to wear that - if 'learnings' happen, neat, but that pay off comes next time we play England and any other team in a game that has meaning for both teams.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @nzzp shades of Perth...

              if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

              It shouldn't though, as this game isn't against England. Last week wasn't game one of a series to find the best team in the World. Smashing Wales (if that happens) doesn't make up for last week's embarrassment. They should all continue to wear that - if 'learnings' happen, neat, but that pay off comes next time we play England and any other team in a game that has meaning for both teams.

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              @gt12 I realise that.

              I mean after being belted last week they have rung changes and should have refocused.

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              • TimT Tim

                @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

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                @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

                That's an attitude thing, not the coaches.

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                  @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @nzzp shades of Perth...

                  if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

                  It shouldn't though, as this game isn't against England. Last week wasn't game one of a series to find the best team in the World. Smashing Wales (if that happens) doesn't make up for last week's embarrassment. They should all continue to wear that - if 'learnings' happen, neat, but that pay off comes next time we play England and any other team in a game that has meaning for both teams.

                  I hope we start playing England a lot more regularly. It's a travesty that the strongest NH union barely ever plays the strongest SH union.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @nzzp shades of Perth...

                    if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

                    It shouldn't though, as this game isn't against England. Last week wasn't game one of a series to find the best team in the World. Smashing Wales (if that happens) doesn't make up for last week's embarrassment. They should all continue to wear that - if 'learnings' happen, neat, but that pay off comes next time we play England and any other team in a game that has meaning for both teams.

                    I hope we start playing England a lot more regularly. It's a travesty that the strongest NH union barely ever plays the strongest SH union.

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                    @No-Quarter said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @nzzp shades of Perth...

                    if they pick themselves up off the floor again, as they did post-Perth, then a few reps will be refurbished.

                    It shouldn't though, as this game isn't against England. Last week wasn't game one of a series to find the best team in the World. Smashing Wales (if that happens) doesn't make up for last week's embarrassment. They should all continue to wear that - if 'learnings' happen, neat, but that pay off comes next time we play England and any other team in a game that has meaning for both teams.

                    I hope we start playing England a lot more regularly. It's a travesty that the strongest NH union barely ever plays the strongest SH union.

                    Yeah if only there were some sort of round robin yearly competition....

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                      Ild like to see Joseph and Brown with Mcleod as Defence. for me, Joseph and Brown are ready to take the ABs into the next phase of their evolution. Robertson is just a clone of the current system who is not as inventive as I believe is needed for the new coach. The world has caught up and if we do not get a coach who can mold and take the ABs into a new era we could be playing catch-up for a while.

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                        My pick would be Gatland,but hes not available. I want a coach with international experience,failing that, northern hemisphere experience. 2 year contract. 2 years is long enough to assess whether we are on the right or wrong track.

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                        • bayimportsB bayimports

                          @pakman said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          I'd be pleased if Cotter applied. Anyone heard any indications of his willingness?

                          welcome back Cotter and not the dodgy 70's version

                          no bias here from a Bay perspective

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                          @bayimports said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          @pakman said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          I'd be pleased if Cotter applied. Anyone heard any indications of his willingness?

                          welcome back Cotter and not the dodgy 70's version

                          no bias here from a Bay perspective

                          That was a great show.

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                            Someone at the Herald has a sense of humour.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @bayimports said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @pakman said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              I'd be pleased if Cotter applied. Anyone heard any indications of his willingness?

                              welcome back Cotter and not the dodgy 70's version

                              no bias here from a Bay perspective

                              That was a great show.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @bayimports said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @pakman said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              I'd be pleased if Cotter applied. Anyone heard any indications of his willingness?

                              welcome back Cotter and not the dodgy 70's version

                              no bias here from a Bay perspective

                              That was a great show.

                              I'm assuming you mean when we won the shield under vern? 🙂

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @gt12 I realise that.

                                I mean after being belted last week they have rung changes and should have refocused.

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                                @taniwharugby

                                Yeah, sorry, that’s just my frustration coming out there.

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  Rennie with Wayne Smith and Tony Brown is a bit of dream team for me. The problem is we don’t have a world class defensive coach available - I doubt that Smith would take it.

                                  And, to the best of my knowledge Robertson is not a defensive specialist; nor Joseph, plus I assume that both would only be keen on a head coaching role.

                                  So, could we go outside to get a D specialist or reinvest in McLeod and try to get a coach for him (e.g., Wayne Smith)?

                                  Our defense was a fucking mess last week so I’m tempted to boot him, despite Stormy being one of my all time favorite players.

                                  Apart from Farrell, who we can’t get anyway, who else would be a defensive specialist we could bring in?

                                  I’d also be tempted to get a better kicking/skills coach again - I feel like our kicking has gone downhill since we lost Mick.

                                  For the scrum, IFIIK. what are the fern’s thoughts?

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                                  @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  Rennie with Wayne Smith and Tony Brown is a bit of dream team for me.

                                  All backs again?

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @nzzp said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @nzzp They made the gainline at will because our defense was passive.

                                    Don't disagree - but it wasn't as rubbish as our attack or our forwards. Facts are we thought they'd get around twenty points and they did. Based on our attack the week before, I thought we'd get to high twenties/low thirties but actually we just sucked.

                                    Main problem was the breakdown. 18 turnovers and 11 penalties.

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                                    @sparky said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    Main problem was the breakdown. 18 turnovers and 11 penalties.

                                    No Sam Cane.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Someone at the Herald has a sense of humour.

                                      alt text

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                                      @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      Someone at the Herald has a sense of humour.

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                                      About time Richie McCaw made the list

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                                        the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

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                                          the thing that really sucks is we have another 8 months for our next game, that's two thirds of a whole year. And god knows how long it will be before we play England again

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                                          @Nevorian aren't we scheduled to meet them on the EOYT 2020?

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