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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Some candidates might only be interested in being the head coach at this stage of their career while others could be prepared to park their ego at the door and look at the bigger picture. Think back to 2003/2004 when Henry assembled a "dream team" with 2 assistants who had previously been the head coach of international teams themselves. If everything falls into place the assistant would be a good chance to succeed the head coach as Hansen did. The big unknown is whether some of the names mentioned in the press could work together because they all have their own personalities and ideas, and we don't really know if there is any history between them.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      @Duluth Leon?

      Actually, I somewhat doubt that - it seemed a bit unusual that he left that Crusaders Asst. Coach position after one year.

      O'Gara?

      Both have huge negatives

      MacDonald would mean disrupting two SR sides. NZR is getting their hands dirty trying to get the Blues back on track. I doubt they want to change coaches now

      Ronan? There's so many good NZ coaches. It would be a slap in the face to go for a foreigner with a limited CV.

      Maybe Robertson is forming a good team and there just aren't any leaks? But I'm starting to think he's getting boxed out

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      @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      NZR is getting their hands dirty trying to get the Blues back on track.

      This makes me wonder if they pulled any strings in encouraging BB to move North?

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        @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        NZR is getting their hands dirty trying to get the Blues back on track.

        This makes me wonder if they pulled any strings in encouraging BB to move North?

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        @Darren BB's wife would have had more pull than NZR. πŸ™‚

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          #291
          RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR ALL BLACKS HEAD COACH UNDER WAY
          
          New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has launched its process to find the next Head Coach of the All Blacks.
          The search for a new coach follows Steve Hansen’s decision earlier this year to stand down from the role.
          
          NZR has already commenced the process by inviting applications from a small group of coaches familiar with New Zealand’s professional rugby environment.
          
          NZR Chairman Brent Impey said that shortlisting, interviews and negotiations would be conducted through November and early December, with a Head Coach to be announced prior to the Christmas break.
          
          The appointment panel includes NZR Chairman Brent Impey, incoming (from January 2020) NZR Chief Executive Mark Robinson, NZR Head of High Performance Mike Anthony, former All Blacks Head Coach and NZR life member Sir Graham Henry and former Silver Ferns Coach and High Performance Sport New Zealand director, Waimarama Taumaunu.
          
          β€œThis is a hugely exciting time for New Zealand Rugby.  We know that the All Blacks and New Zealand have been served well by exceptional coaches, so we are well aware of the importance of the task ahead.
          
          β€œWe believe we have an excellent group of people on the panel, balancing the experience of winning high performance teams and leadership with external perspective and experience.”
          
          NZR has already written to a number of coaches familiar with New Zealand’s professional rugby environment, to outline the appointment process and inviting them to apply.
          
          β€œThis is an official employment process, and therefore it’s confidential.  We are looking forward to announcing the next Head Coach of the All Blacks next month,” he said.
          

          https://www.allblacks.com/news/recruitment-process-for-all-blacks-head-coach-under-way/

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          • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

            @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            However, if Joseph can get a great, experienced defense coach, then it could be OK. Rennie will want to be a head coach, so I don't see him as that person, which means he'll coach Oz and will be dead to me.

            I would suggest that Jamie Joseph would list Scott McLeod as his defence coach, bringing back his Highlanders 2015 team. He would also likely bring in Clarke Dermody as a scrum coach.

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            @SouthernMann said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            However, if Joseph can get a great, experienced defense coach, then it could be OK. Rennie will want to be a head coach, so I don't see him as that person, which means he'll coach Oz and will be dead to me.

            I would suggest that Jamie Joseph would list Scott McLeod as his defence coach, bringing back his Highlanders 2015 team. He would also likely bring in Clarke Dermody as a scrum coach.

            Which I assume means that Stormy wants to stay, come what may, because I assume he’ll be part of Fozzie’s team too.

            Beyond that though, I’m not sold on Stormy anyway. I’m not sure if it would make the Joseph application better, although would make it stronger with some consistency.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @SouthernMann said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              However, if Joseph can get a great, experienced defense coach, then it could be OK. Rennie will want to be a head coach, so I don't see him as that person, which means he'll coach Oz and will be dead to me.

              I would suggest that Jamie Joseph would list Scott McLeod as his defence coach, bringing back his Highlanders 2015 team. He would also likely bring in Clarke Dermody as a scrum coach.

              Which I assume means that Stormy wants to stay, come what may, because I assume he’ll be part of Fozzie’s team too.

              Beyond that though, I’m not sold on Stormy anyway. I’m not sure if it would make the Joseph application better, although would make it stronger with some consistency.

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              @gt12 Who are the other options as defence coach? I am excluding Smith.

              The first place to look would be the 5 SR teams but I'm not sure who they are. Delaney, McLeod's replacement, has left the Highlanders so we are down to 4 other choices unless someone else takes over that role like Mitchell did with England.

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                I don't see why the head coaches need to confirm their team prior to being appointed themselves.

                Whilst having preferences to work with a given team is good and gives a basis for NZR to make a decision I'd like to see them have the ability to mix and match the coaching team based on availability post head coach appointment.

                To my mind it seems applying for the head coach seems to limit your ability to be appointed as an assistant. It seems we could rule out a lot of talent this way.

                Further, how many assustants are you proposing be part of your team? Is everyone the same?

                Who is to say the assistants are prepared to accept the pay and conditions on offer?

                I hope they are not too rigid in the process.

                Shame that Brown may have limited himself.

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                #294

                @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                I don't see why the head coaches need to confirm their team prior to being appointed themselves.

                That doesn't seem the case though? Basically they are just looking for the best answer the question of "Who would your assistants be?".

                It's not as though the candidate needs them waiting in the car park, ready to sign on - but they will need to do better than Robbie's "why would I need an assistant? But if you ask me at gunpoint I think Pat Lam is a talent".

                You can get boxed in the other way too. Gatland and Robertson for different reasons might have difficulties getting the same quality of assistants which @Duluth has touched on inadvertently.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @gt12 Who are the other options as defence coach? I am excluding Smith.

                  The first place to look would be the 5 SR teams but I'm not sure who they are. Delaney, McLeod's replacement, has left the Highlanders so we are down to 4 other choices unless someone else takes over that role like Mitchell did with England.

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                  @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @gt12 Who are the other options as defence coach? I am excluding Smith.

                  The first place to look would be the 5 SR teams but I'm not sure who they are. Delaney, McLeod's replacement, has left the Highlanders so we are down to 4 other choices unless someone else takes over that role like Mitchell did with England.

                  Funnily enough, this is the area where I’m happy to look overseas. If there is a better defense coach who isn’t a kiwi, get them.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    Shame that Brown may have limited himself.

                    I think it is a class move to lay his cards out on the table. I am sure he could have taken advantage of his position and used his leverage (why not, it works for our politicians right Winston?) but I respect the fact that he isn't keeping anyone dangling on the line

                    I'm not criticising him. He's clearly saying his loyalty is with Joseph.

                    Just I'd like to see him available to any party that gets the gig.

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                    @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @booboo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    Shame that Brown may have limited himself.

                    I think it is a class move to lay his cards out on the table. I am sure he could have taken advantage of his position and used his leverage (why not, it works for our politicians right Winston?) but I respect the fact that he isn't keeping anyone dangling on the line

                    I'm not criticising him. He's clearly saying his loyalty is with Joseph.

                    Just I'd like to see him available to any party that gets the gig.

                    I wasn't criticising you. Just laying out my 2 cents

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                      Filling out my application right now.

                      I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                      Rieko is my captain!

                      Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        Filling out my application right now.

                        I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                        Rieko is my captain!

                        Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

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                        @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        Filling out my application right now.

                        I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                        Rieko is my captain!

                        Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

                        me and @jegga are your prime ass coach candidates.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          Filling out my application right now.

                          I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                          Rieko is my captain!

                          Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

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                          @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

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                            @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

                            Ahh - the answer to a testing interview question....

                            Q. Mr. B. - How will you lift Akira Ioane to All Black standard.

                            A. I won't need to. Blues fans will vote for him regardless! πŸ™‚

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              Filling out my application right now.

                              I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                              Rieko is my captain!

                              Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

                              me and @jegga are your prime ass coach candidates.

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                              @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              Filling out my application right now.

                              I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                              Rieko is my captain!

                              Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

                              me and @jegga are your prime ass coach candidates.

                              Good work on the Hawt girls thread?

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

                                Ahh - the answer to a testing interview question....

                                Q. Mr. B. - How will you lift Akira Ioane to All Black standard.

                                A. I won't need to. Blues fans will vote for him regardless! πŸ™‚

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                                @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

                                Ahh - the answer to a testing interview question....

                                Q. Mr. B. - How will you lift Akira Ioane to All Black standard.

                                A. I won't need to. Blues fans will vote for him regardless! πŸ™‚

                                how easy will post game pressers be?

                                Mr B, the decision to include x was a strange one, and doesn't appear to have worked. What was the thinking there?

                                A. Dunno mate, you'll have to ask the cantab voting block.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

                                  Ahh - the answer to a testing interview question....

                                  Q. Mr. B. - How will you lift Akira Ioane to All Black standard.

                                  A. I won't need to. Blues fans will vote for him regardless! πŸ™‚

                                  how easy will post game pressers be?

                                  Mr B, the decision to include x was a strange one, and doesn't appear to have worked. What was the thinking there?

                                  A. Dunno mate, you'll have to ask the cantab voting block.

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                                  @mariner4life Even easier - because I won't be there.

                                  Couldn't think of anything worse after a defeat!

                                  I guess I could reply from my keyboard - "GFYS Andrew!" πŸ™‚

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                                    Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🀣

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🀣

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                                      @Bovidae Jesus - if we have to have @Nepia on the team it will be a short, but interesting tenure.

                                      "The All Blacks have defaulted this weekends test due to the selectors being unable to agree about anything!" πŸ™‚

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        Filling out my application right now.

                                        I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                                        Rieko is my captain!

                                        Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

                                        me and @jegga are your prime ass coach candidates.

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                                        @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        Filling out my application right now.

                                        I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

                                        Rieko is my captain!

                                        Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! πŸ™‚

                                        me and @jegga are your prime ass coach candidates.

                                        I’m confident I can rise to the challenge

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🀣

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                                          @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🀣

                                          for a sweet NZRU paycheck I'll identify as whatever the hell you want me to

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