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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

    Ahh - the answer to a testing interview question....

    Q. Mr. B. - How will you lift Akira Ioane to All Black standard.

    A. I won't need to. Blues fans will vote for him regardless! 🙂

    how easy will post game pressers be?

    Mr B, the decision to include x was a strange one, and doesn't appear to have worked. What was the thinking there?

    A. Dunno mate, you'll have to ask the cantab voting block.

    Chris B.C Online
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    Chris B.
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    @mariner4life Even easier - because I won't be there.

    Couldn't think of anything worse after a defeat!

    I guess I could reply from my keyboard - "GFYS Andrew!" 🙂

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      Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🤣

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🤣

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        Chris B.
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        @Bovidae Jesus - if we have to have @Nepia on the team it will be a short, but interesting tenure.

        "The All Blacks have defaulted this weekends test due to the selectors being unable to agree about anything!" 🙂

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          Filling out my application right now.

          I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

          Rieko is my captain!

          Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! 🙂

          me and @jegga are your prime ass coach candidates.

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          @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          Filling out my application right now.

          I can't be arsed going to practices, so I'm going to be way ahead of the curve - a cyber-coach - doing everything via keyboard including tactics devised devised using Jonah Lomu Rugby and a bit of cross disciplinary Fortnite.

          Rieko is my captain!

          Apparently I need a team - so I need an Ass Coach and there's doubtless plenty of candidates here. No way are you getting the "istant" to go with that though! 🙂

          me and @jegga are your prime ass coach candidates.

          I’m confident I can rise to the challenge

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🤣

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            @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🤣

            for a sweet NZRU paycheck I'll identify as whatever the hell you want me to

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              Which one of you fellas identifies as a Maori or PI? 🤣

              for a sweet NZRU paycheck I'll identify as whatever the hell you want me to

              Chris B.C Online
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              Chris B.
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              @mariner4life That's the spirit!

              If AIG want us they're going to have to pay - and in hard currency - cash, small used bills!

              I'm fleshing out the manifesto.

              I think the whole culture should be driven by accountability - and the philosophy that, "It's the players who play the game".

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @mariner4life That's the spirit!

                If AIG want us they're going to have to pay - and in hard currency - cash, small used bills!

                I'm fleshing out the manifesto.

                I think the whole culture should be driven by accountability - and the philosophy that, "It's the players who play the game".

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                @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                @mariner4life That's the spirit!

                If AIG want us they're going to have to pay - and in hard currency - cash, small used bills!

                I'm fleshing out the manifesto.

                I think the whole culture should be driven by accountability - and the philosophy that, "It's the players who play the game".

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @Chris-B team selections will be easy...do a poll, sweet!

                  Ahh - the answer to a testing interview question....

                  Q. Mr. B. - How will you lift Akira Ioane to All Black standard.

                  A. I won't need to. Blues fans will vote for him regardless! 🙂

                  how easy will post game pressers be?

                  Mr B, the decision to include x was a strange one, and doesn't appear to have worked. What was the thinking there?

                  A. Dunno mate, you'll have to ask the cantab voting block.

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                  @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  how easy will post game pressers be?

                  Could adopt the Movie thread scoring.

                  "I'd rate him 3.5 annoying halfbacks out of 5 showponying hookers" or shorthand 3.5 Marshalls / 5 Fitzy's.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Some candidates might only be interested in being the head coach at this stage of their career while others could be prepared to park their ego at the door and look at the bigger picture. Think back to 2003/2004 when Henry assembled a "dream team" with 2 assistants who had previously been the head coach of international teams themselves. If everything falls into place the assistant would be a good chance to succeed the head coach as Hansen did. The big unknown is whether some of the names mentioned in the press could work together because they all have their own personalities and ideas, and we don't really know if there is any history between them.

                    Chris B.C Online
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                    Chris B.
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                    @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    Some candidates might only be interested in being the head coach at this stage of their career while others could be prepared to park their ego at the door and look at the bigger picture. Think back to 2003/2004 when Henry assembled a "dream team" with 2 assistants who had previously been the head coach of international teams themselves. If everything falls into place the assistant would be a good chance to succeed the head coach as Hansen did. The big unknown is whether some of the names mentioned in the press could work together because they all have their own personalities and ideas, and we don't really know if there is any history between them.

                    They're currently saying on Radiosport that an invitation to apply has been sent to 26 coaches - with an implication that they're all New Zealanders (though I might have misinterpreted that bit). Stuff confirming:

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/117198809/graham-henry-named-on-all-blacks-coaching-selection-panel

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      As much as I can see that the negatives around Fozzie aren’t nearly as big as some make out and that he may be in a strong place to put together a good coaching unit I am also beginning to think that, given the player rebuilding situation this may also be a good opportunity to refresh the hereditary situation that has developed.
                      Having continuity is great but eventually it gets more and more difficult to get fresh ideas from the same group.
                      The last group showed a fixation on beating the rush defence because they wanted to continue an attacking style of their creation. In doing that they gambled on ignoring some key RWC knockout lessons around experienced heads.
                      Maybe a new dynasty can be created and this is the prime opportunity to start it?
                      Much depends on the running mates.

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                      @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      As much as I can see that the negatives around Fozzie aren’t nearly as big as some make out and that he may be in a strong place to put together a good coaching unit I am also beginning to think that, given the player rebuilding situation this may also be a good opportunity to refresh the hereditary situation that has developed.
                      Having continuity is great but eventually it gets more and more difficult to get fresh ideas from the same group.
                      The last group showed a fixation on beating the rush defence because they wanted to continue an attacking style of their creation. In doing that they gambled on ignoring some key RWC knockout lessons around experienced heads.
                      Maybe a new dynasty can be created and this is the prime opportunity to start it?
                      Much depends on the running mates

                      I get that the appointment of a new head coach is now like a package deal and appears to be a key factor in determining a successful applicant.

                      However I’m not sure it should lend so much weight given when there are changes to an assistant mid-cycle, who is brought in has no bearing on the head coach’s position/contract does it?

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                      • Billy TellB Offline
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                        26 coaches!

                        Ian Foster
                        Scott Robertson
                        Tony Brown
                        Dave Rennie
                        Warren Gatland
                        The guy who coaches U10s at the local club
                        Bob the Builder
                        Maureen Mike's mum

                        Can't think of any more.

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                          Rassie 😉

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            Some candidates might only be interested in being the head coach at this stage of their career while others could be prepared to park their ego at the door and look at the bigger picture. Think back to 2003/2004 when Henry assembled a "dream team" with 2 assistants who had previously been the head coach of international teams themselves. If everything falls into place the assistant would be a good chance to succeed the head coach as Hansen did. The big unknown is whether some of the names mentioned in the press could work together because they all have their own personalities and ideas, and we don't really know if there is any history between them.

                            They're currently saying on Radiosport that an invitation to apply has been sent to 26 coaches - with an implication that they're all New Zealanders (though I might have misinterpreted that bit). Stuff confirming:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/117198809/graham-henry-named-on-all-blacks-coaching-selection-panel

                            TimT Away
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                            Tim
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                            @Chris-B Perhaps they are interviewing teams of coaches - hence the 26.

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                              I'd be pretty sure expat coaches like Cotter, Haig, Crowley, maybe Penney etc are in that list of 26. But at 26 names, you start to wonder if Hammett and Gibson are there too!

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                                I'd think anyone who's coached Super rugby in recent times - as well as various international coaches....

                                Ian Foster
                                Warren Gatland
                                Joe Schmidt
                                Wayne Smith
                                Dave Rennie
                                Jamie Joseph
                                Vern Cotter
                                Leon MacDonald
                                Tana Umaga
                                John Kirwan
                                Pat Lam
                                Colin Cooper
                                John Plumtree
                                Chris Boyd
                                Mark Hammett
                                Razor Robertson
                                Todd Blackadder
                                Robbie Deans
                                Aaron Mauger
                                Tony Brown
                                Gordon Tietjens
                                Milton Haig
                                Steve Jackson
                                Wayne Pivac
                                Darryl Gibson
                                Brad Thorn
                                Jono Gibbes
                                Simon Mannix

                                Is that 28?

                                Edit: John Mitchell
                                Kieran Crowley
                                Rob Penney

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @Chris-B Perhaps they are interviewing teams of coaches - hence the 26.

                                  Chris B.C Online
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                                  Chris B.
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                                  @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Chris-B Perhaps they are interviewing teams of coaches - hence the 26.

                                  I think just casting the net widely for the initial screening.

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                                    Don't think John Mitchell has been approached. The job ad specifically says the NZRU are looking for the best and not a journeyman.

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                                      so is that coaching panel appointed to ensure Fozzie doesnt just walk it, or just appear that way if he gets the gig?

                                      At this rate, they wont be done by Xmas!!

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                                        Machpants
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                                        26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          26 coaches invited, doesn't mean they all will

                                          Chris B.C Online
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                                          Chris B.
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                                          @Machpants Yeah, without doubt some will flag it, or be contractually bound elsewhere - and some might put up their hands for assistant positions.

                                          I reckon if you started trawling through the staff in those European clubs it might throw up quite a few interesting specialist coaches that most casual NZ fans would have forgotten about.

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