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Cricket: NZ vs England

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  • SynicBastS SynicBast

    Watling gets rated at 693 for his 205 against England attack while Stokes gets a rating of 704 for his 91. I guess strength of opposing attack and home ground really is a huge factor there

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    @SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

    Watling gets rated at 693 for his 205 against England attack while Stokes gets a rating of 704 for his 91. I guess strength of opposing attack and home ground really is a huge factor there

    The ratings are based on more than just the last innings. So his 91 presumably boosted his rating less than Watling's 205 boosted his.

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      Looks like Stokes was on 685 before the test started and Watling was on 620. So 73 point gain for Watling and a 20 point gain for Stokes. Roughly three and half times better.

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        Looking at the rankings has made me realise that despite our CWC performances, short form cricket is actually our weaker suit by a fair margin. Outside of Kane and Ross, none of our batsmen rank particularly highly, whereas in tests we have Latham, Nicholls and Watling all in the top twenty. And at this point Kane and Ross are both much stronger performers in the longer format (more so Ross than Kane, who is world class in both).

        Our bowling is relatively even, where the loss of Wagner is offset by the presence of Ferguson.

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          Yay yay it's a cricket day!!!

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            Looking at the rankings has made me realise that despite our CWC performances, short form cricket is actually our weaker suit by a fair margin. Outside of Kane and Ross, none of our batsmen rank particularly highly, whereas in tests we have Latham, Nicholls and Watling all in the top twenty. And at this point Kane and Ross are both much stronger performers in the longer format (more so Ross than Kane, who is world class in both).

            Our bowling is relatively even, where the loss of Wagner is offset by the presence of Ferguson.

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            @Cyclops agree, particularly at opener and 5. Raval and Nicholls are both solid test players, but we've really struggled to find an opener to replace BMac and a decent #5 in ODIs. That said, the quality of Williamson and Taylor has masked that a bit and our middle order hitters can win ODIs with a quick 100 between them, which is usually less useful in tests.

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              When's the team named?

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                When's the team named?

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                @Crucial said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                When's the team named?

                Thursd....

                Oh wrong code

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                  @Crucial said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  When's the team named?

                  Thursd....

                  Oh wrong code

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                  @Machpants I almost went there ... never gets old.

                  Anyway, the team is as Daryl Mitchell and Matt Henry coming in for TB and CDG.

                  I'd still have taken Lockie

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                    Matt fucken Henry.. really

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @Machpants I almost went there ... never gets old.

                      Anyway, the team is as Daryl Mitchell and Matt Henry coming in for TB and CDG.

                      I'd still have taken Lockie

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                      @nzzp said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      @Machpants I almost went there ... never gets old.

                      Anyway, the team is as Daryl Mitchell and Matt Henry coming in for TB and CDG.

                      I'd still have taken Lockie

                      Sames

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                        Are we trying to keep some dry powder for the Aussies or something?

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                          England drop Leach for Chris Woakes, they now have 5 seamers. Strengthens their batting too. Pope will keep. This is his fifth first class game keeping wicket.

                          I probably would have preferred Ferg over Henry, but I get why Henry is preferred. Ferg has never lead a black caps attack and he's best eased in to test cricket as a 3/4 option. That said, Ferg is likely to be very effective in Aus.

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                            England top order is interesting..

                            1. Who?
                            2. Who?
                            3. Who?
                            4. Root
                            5. Stokes
                            6. Who?
                            7. Who?
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                            • VirgilV Virgil

                              England top order is interesting..

                              1. Who?
                              2. Who?
                              3. Who?
                              4. Root
                              5. Stokes
                              6. Who?
                              7. Who?
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                              @Virgil said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                              England top order is interesting..

                              1. Who?
                              2. Who?
                              3. Who?
                              4. Root
                              5. Stokes
                              6. Who?
                              7. Who?

                              Massive top order!!

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                                Talk about a disappointing first ball from England's perspective

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                                  Talk about a disappointing first ball from England's perspective

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                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  Talk about a disappointing first ball from England's perspective

                                  Not the first wicket tho, rubbish

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                                    Kane better step up a bit, or he'll be carrying the drinks in Australia. We're too good to just be carrying people these days

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                                      Kumar is the sort of umpire DRS was made for.

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                                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                        Kumar is the sort of umpire DRS was made for.

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                                        @Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                        Kumar is the sort of umpire DRS was made for.

                                        Absolutely. I would love to see his getting it right/wrong ratio

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                                          Black Caps should be reasonably happy getting to 86/2 at lunch, after being put in and losing 2 early wickets.
                                          Hopefully one or both of these two go on and make a big score.

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