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Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

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    kiwiinmelb
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    #109

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="546598" data-time="1449585290">
    <div>
    <p>They don't just confine their dodgy dealings to the British Isles. A few years ago a couple of them turned up outside my townhouse in Oslo. Was a weird experience to say the least. They were offering to do up my front yard. They showed me an impressive "portfolio" of their work. Having seen Snatch I didn't want to piss them off so told them I was skint.<br><br>
    Found out later that they were becoming a serious problem. You pay them up front, they do a shit job and demand more cash to fix. You pay them more and they promptly piss off. Considering Norwegians are the most trusting and naive people on the planet, they probably made a fortune.<br><br>
    Can't blame Tyson Fury if he's a little farked in the head.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>On a smaller scale that is happening even in Australia , they come out here , usually targeting the elderly , quite often offering to fix their roof , rip off as many as they can , piss off home with the cash , </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And people here dont know who they are and can be a bit more gullible  </p>

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      kidcalder
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      #110

      <p>How the hell do they get visas/passports half don't have legit birth certs</p>
      <p>Thats how they claim 2-3 dole payments in ireland</p>

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        Cookie
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        #111

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="546508" data-time="1449528830"><p>What is behind the origins of "Pikey"</p></blockquote>
        <br>
        When I was a kid in the 70's pikey was generally used locally for travellers who had settled into housing. I grew up in Ashford and there was a big pikey settlement in nearby Hothfield. The pikeys who went to my school we're happy to be known by that name. How words change - friends were called "chavvies" (really), good was "cushtie" long before Only Fools and Horses, and not surprisingly they would often go "choring" (stealing) at the weekends. Usually with their parents.

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          #112

          <p>I know what a Pikey is but where did that term originate form? Short for Pikelet?.. (Obviously not)</p>

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            I'm not sure why people are so aghast at Fury.....he's not a rapist ( Tyson ) doesn't have mob ties ( Liston) isn't a woman basher ( Mayweather ) isn't a murderer ( Don King ).....he's just a quirky chap who says weird and offensive shit at the end of the day....

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              #114

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="546614" data-time="1449610940">
              <div>
              <p>I know what a Pikey is but where did that term originate form? Short for Pikelet?.. (Obviously not)</p>
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              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Pretty sure it came from Turnpike</p>

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                taniwharugby
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                #115

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="546616" data-time="1449612221">
                <div>
                <p>Pretty sure it came from Turnpike</p>
                </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey'>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey</a></p>

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                  #116

                  <p>So Fury now loses his title because of going for a rematch with Klitschko rather than with the mandatory challenge</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606'>http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606</a></p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Crikey that's a messed up sport.</p>

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                    #117

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="546641" data-time="1449620779">
                    <div>
                    <p>So Fury now loses his title because of going for a rematch with Klitschko rather than with the mandatory challenge</p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606'>http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606</a></p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Crikey that's a messed up sport.</p>
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                    </blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>That's what happens when you have an alphabet soup of boxing titles.  All of the different organisations compete against eachother.  I assume the IBF had scheduled a challenge before the Klitschko/Fury fight.  As I mentioned earlier, Kevin Barry predicted this.</p>

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                      #118

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="546641" data-time="1449620779">
                      <div>
                      <p>So Fury now loses his title because of going for a rematch with Klitschko rather than with the mandatory challenge</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606'>http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606</a></p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Crikey that's a messed up sport.</p>
                      </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>I heard that mentioned straight after the fight. I'm pretty sure everyone knew it was possible when Fury signed a contract with a rematch clause. Any rematch would go against the IBF rules.</p>

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                        Rembrandt
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                        #119

                        <p>So in this situation who currently holds the titles then? Do they go to the next challenger?</p>

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                          Crucial
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                          #120

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rembrandt" data-cid="546660" data-time="1449624218">
                          <div>
                          <p>So in this situation who currently holds the titles then? Do they go to the next challenger?</p>
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                          </blockquote>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Don't they usually have an vacant title and the mandatory challenger takes on the next in line?</p>

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                            kiwiinmelb
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                            Klitchko pretty much took on all mandatory s for a decade , which I guess is why I have some respect for him .<br>
                            Yeah not too many great boxers in that list of guys he has beaten . , but that's not his fault . He can only beat what is there , and he cant be accused of dodging anyone , which is a bit rare these days .

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                              Catogrande
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                              #122

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cookie" data-cid="546613" data-time="1449610154">
                              <div>
                              <p>When I was a kid in the 70's pikey was generally used locally for travellers who had settled into housing. I grew up in Ashford and there was a big pikey settlement in nearby Hothfield. The pikeys who went to my school we're happy to be known by that name. How words change - friends were called "chavvies" (really), good was "cushtie" long before Only Fools and Horses, and not surprisingly they would often go "choring" (stealing) at the weekends. Usually with their parents.</p>
                              </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p>Choring. I haven't heard that for years.</p>

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                                <p>Not sure why people are sympathising with Fury's upbringing and suggesting he doesn't know any better</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>I'd suggest that the behaviour of the group he comes from KNOWS EXACTLY what acceptable and unacceptable behaviour is, thus they choose the effective option knowing full well about consequences and expectations</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Surely people can see he's on the wind up. (as if his opinion on society even matters)</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Is he actually any good? Just looks like a fat swinger to me (but he's got a title and millions and I've got sfa)</p>

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                                  #124

                                  <p>Well, he just beat Klitschko so he's obviously a lot more than just a fat swinger.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Massive bellwhiff, mind.</p>

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                                    canefan
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                                    #125

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="546669" data-time="1449626785"><p>Klitchko pretty much took on all mandatory s for a decade , which I guess is why I have some respect for him .<br>
                                    Yeah not too many great boxers in that list of guys he has beaten . , but that's not his fault . He can only beat what is there , and he cant be accused of dodging anyone , which is a bit rare these days .</p></blockquote>Otherwise known as "pulling a floyd"

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                                      Siam
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                                      #126

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Ben" data-cid="546754" data-time="1449651779">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>Well, he just beat Klitschko so he's obviously a lot more than just a fat swinger.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Massive bellwhiff, mind.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Yep, the proof is in the pudding I guess</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>However watching past fights on youtube didn't look too flash or at all sophisticated in the ring - but I'm a layman</p>

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                                        canefan
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                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="546757" data-time="1449652419"><p>Yep, the proof is in the pudding I guess<br>
                                         <br>
                                        However watching past fights on youtube didn't look too flash or at all sophisticated in the ring - but I'm a layman</p></blockquote>Surely Klitschko didn't tank the fight to generate interest in the rematch?

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                                          #128

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="546669" data-time="1449626785"><p>
                                          Klitchko pretty much took on all mandatory s for a decade , which I guess is why I have some respect for him .<br>
                                          Yeah not too many great boxers in that list of guys he has beaten . , but that's not his fault . He can only beat what is there , and he cant be accused of dodging anyone , which is a bit rare these days .</p></blockquote>
                                          Except for you know... Vitali. Hard to respect him as the best in the world when he wont even show he is the best in the family or better than the other preeminent boxer in his division at the time.<br><br>
                                          Those two ran a cartel over the heavyweight division at the start of Wlad's title run with Viatali doing a lot of heavy lifting for him by knocking off opponents.

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