All Black Coach - Ian Foster
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@Donsteppa said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Non-Chiefs fans are about to find out what we were all whinging about in Chiefs land ten to fifteen years ago...
Oh yes, we remember.
@Snowy said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@Donsteppa said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Non-Chiefs fans are about to find out what we were all whinging about in Chiefs land ten to fifteen years ago...
Oh yes, we remember.
Whinging whilst hiding behind the couch no less....
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Remember all those years ago when we joked around about Foster becoming coach.
Oh how we laughed....
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First of all, I hope Foster proves all the doubters wrong. Because I want the All Blacks to win and be great.
Second, Robertson gets time to rebuild the Crusaders after their player exodus and the departure of several coaches. It will be interesting to see whether he'll give it another go in two years time or will go overseas. I have no doubt he'll be the ABs coach one day, but not sure it will be in two years time.
Third, I hope Foster's coaching team will be more inspiring than what's been suggested over the past few weeks in the media. What I've seen looks boring.
Fourth, I'll have low expectations for the 2020 test matches. Not only because of this appointment, but also - to a degree - because of the exodus of experienced players.
All of the above would be different if Robertson is a surprise addition to Foster's coaching set-up as an assistant coach.
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@Snowy said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@Donsteppa said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Non-Chiefs fans are about to find out what we were all whinging about in Chiefs land ten to fifteen years ago...
Oh yes, we remember.
Whinging whilst hiding behind the couch no less....
@Donsteppa Those were dark days, Don. Dark dark days.
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well the first tests v Wales will be huge for both teams, the crybaby Sweaties 'shouldnt' pose too much of an issue, but I think the August 15 match v Aus, became a bit more spicey...
I guess all those folks who have been bored with selections and winning the past decade are about to get excited by rugby again....
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well the first tests v Wales will be huge for both teams, the crybaby Sweaties 'shouldnt' pose too much of an issue, but I think the August 15 match v Aus, became a bit more spicey...
I guess all those folks who have been bored with selections and winning the past decade are about to get excited by rugby again....
@taniwharugby I can foresee that Mitre 10 Cup will become even more important to me than it already was.
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I wonder if Rennie and Joseph new it was a done deal some time ago hence them pulling out. Do you think any other applicant really had a chance?
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I wonder if Rennie and Joseph new it was a done deal some time ago hence them pulling out. Do you think any other applicant really had a chance?
@chimoaus I'd like to think it wasnt a done deal, but Rennie & Joseph taking other roles and Robertsons still being a bit green with a pretty weak team behind him kinda made it so.
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Plumtree's coaching record has some pretty decent highlights/experience.
- 2007 - Sharks assistant coach Super Rugby - Sharks got to a home final and should have won (Habana scored matchwinner after hooter)
- 2008 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2010 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2013-14 - Ireland assistant coach (forwards)
- 2015-17 - Hurricanes assistant coach - lost a home final 15 + won Canes only Super title 16
- 2019 - Hurricanes head coach - came within a whisker (or Sam Whitelock undetected hand in the ruck) of beating the Crusaders in Chirstchurch Super Rugby Semi Final
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First of all, I hope Foster proves all the doubters wrong. Because I want the All Blacks to win and be great.
Second, Robertson gets time to rebuild the Crusaders after their player exodus and the departure of several coaches. It will be interesting to see whether he'll give it another go in two years time or will go overseas. I have no doubt he'll be the ABs coach one day, but not sure it will be in two years time.
Third, I hope Foster's coaching team will be more inspiring than what's been suggested over the past few weeks in the media. What I've seen looks boring.
Fourth, I'll have low expectations for the 2020 test matches. Not only because of this appointment, but also - to a degree - because of the exodus of experienced players.
All of the above would be different if Robertson is a surprise addition to Foster's coaching set-up as an assistant coach.
@Stargazer said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
First of all, I hope Foster proves all the doubters wrong. Because I want the All Blacks to win and be great.
Agreed.
Second, Robertson gets time to rebuild the Crusaders after their player exodus and the departure of several coaches. It will be interesting to see whether he'll give it another go in two years time or will go overseas
It will be interesting how the Crusaders go. That should tell us a lot about his coaching.
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@Snowy Same ole shit. Whilst I wish him well and will always be supportive of the ABs, this is just a conservative approach and absolutely nothing in his coaching record suggests he can reverse a declining team's fortunes and create a new chapter of AB history. Of course I hope I am wrong.
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@Dolamite we will see how true it is that 'anyone could coach the AB's' is that gets trotted out now and again.
Warren Gatland is getting some of his blows in early ahead of next year's Lions tour, saying "anyone" in New Zealand could coach the All Blacks to an 85 per cent winning record.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11741478
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@mikedogz I know that, was it the fact we arent about to face the lions or not on an 18 win streak that gave it away
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Well...Go Fozzie!!!
The good thing NZ Rugby has done is make this a two year appointment.
If Foster reverts to his Chiefs coaching form then the axe can and should fall. He needs to prove that he can select and coach a side to be number one in the world.
The good thing about having Rennie as Australian coach is that he'll provide an excellent benchmark for Fozzie's performance. If the Bledisloe finds itself on the wrong side of the Ta$man in the next couple of years, I think that will be the number 1 KPI failure.
No 2 KPI will, I think, be achieving at least parity in terms of matches won vs the Boks. Anything less will be slippage.
