All Black Coach - Ian Foster
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I wonder if Rennie and Joseph new it was a done deal some time ago hence them pulling out. Do you think any other applicant really had a chance?
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I wonder if Rennie and Joseph new it was a done deal some time ago hence them pulling out. Do you think any other applicant really had a chance?
@chimoaus I'd like to think it wasnt a done deal, but Rennie & Joseph taking other roles and Robertsons still being a bit green with a pretty weak team behind him kinda made it so.
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Plumtree's coaching record has some pretty decent highlights/experience.
- 2007 - Sharks assistant coach Super Rugby - Sharks got to a home final and should have won (Habana scored matchwinner after hooter)
- 2008 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2010 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2013-14 - Ireland assistant coach (forwards)
- 2015-17 - Hurricanes assistant coach - lost a home final 15 + won Canes only Super title 16
- 2019 - Hurricanes head coach - came within a whisker (or Sam Whitelock undetected hand in the ruck) of beating the Crusaders in Chirstchurch Super Rugby Semi Final
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First of all, I hope Foster proves all the doubters wrong. Because I want the All Blacks to win and be great.
Second, Robertson gets time to rebuild the Crusaders after their player exodus and the departure of several coaches. It will be interesting to see whether he'll give it another go in two years time or will go overseas. I have no doubt he'll be the ABs coach one day, but not sure it will be in two years time.
Third, I hope Foster's coaching team will be more inspiring than what's been suggested over the past few weeks in the media. What I've seen looks boring.
Fourth, I'll have low expectations for the 2020 test matches. Not only because of this appointment, but also - to a degree - because of the exodus of experienced players.
All of the above would be different if Robertson is a surprise addition to Foster's coaching set-up as an assistant coach.
@Stargazer said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
First of all, I hope Foster proves all the doubters wrong. Because I want the All Blacks to win and be great.
Agreed.
Second, Robertson gets time to rebuild the Crusaders after their player exodus and the departure of several coaches. It will be interesting to see whether he'll give it another go in two years time or will go overseas
It will be interesting how the Crusaders go. That should tell us a lot about his coaching.
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@Snowy Same ole shit. Whilst I wish him well and will always be supportive of the ABs, this is just a conservative approach and absolutely nothing in his coaching record suggests he can reverse a declining team's fortunes and create a new chapter of AB history. Of course I hope I am wrong.
One big upside is Plumtree though. -
@Dolamite we will see how true it is that 'anyone could coach the AB's' is that gets trotted out now and again.
Warren Gatland is getting some of his blows in early ahead of next year's Lions tour, saying "anyone" in New Zealand could coach the All Blacks to an 85 per cent winning record.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11741478
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@mikedogz I know that, was it the fact we arent about to face the lions or not on an 18 win streak that gave it away
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Well...Go Fozzie!!!
The good thing NZ Rugby has done is make this a two year appointment.
If Foster reverts to his Chiefs coaching form then the axe can and should fall. He needs to prove that he can select and coach a side to be number one in the world.
The good thing about having Rennie as Australian coach is that he'll provide an excellent benchmark for Fozzie's performance. If the Bledisloe finds itself on the wrong side of the Ta$man in the next couple of years, I think that will be the number 1 KPI failure.
No 2 KPI will, I think, be achieving at least parity in terms of matches won vs the Boks. Anything less will be slippage.
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Plumtree's coaching record has some pretty decent highlights/experience.
- 2007 - Sharks assistant coach Super Rugby - Sharks got to a home final and should have won (Habana scored matchwinner after hooter)
- 2008 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2010 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2013-14 - Ireland assistant coach (forwards)
- 2015-17 - Hurricanes assistant coach - lost a home final 15 + won Canes only Super title 16
- 2019 - Hurricanes head coach - came within a whisker (or Sam Whitelock undetected hand in the ruck) of beating the Crusaders in Chirstchurch Super Rugby Semi Final
@KiwiMurph said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Plumtree's coaching record has some pretty decent highlights/experience.
- 2007 - Sharks assistant coach Super Rugby - Sharks got to a home final and should have won (Habana scored matchwinner after hooter)
- 2008 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2010 - Head coach of Natal Sharks in Currie Cup (Currie Cup champions)
- 2013-14 - Ireland assistant coach (forwards)
- 2015-17 - Hurricanes assistant coach - lost a home final 15 + won Canes only Super title 16
- 2019 - Hurricanes head coach - came within a whisker (or Sam Whitelock undetected hand in the ruck) of beating the Crusaders in Chirstchurch Super Rugby Semi Final
Plumtree is an outstanding assistant. That's where he needs to stay though with a head coach who will pull him into line with his love of plodders.
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Bunch of idiots, can't see anything but a continuation of the downward slide we are currently on.
Brad Mooar (if confirmed) is not a huge surprise. I've heard that Razor and him don't really get along.
@SammyC said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Bunch of idiots, can't see anything but a continuation of the downward slide we are currently on.
Brad Mooar (if confirmed) is not a huge surprise. I've heard that Razor and him don't really get along.
Razor is a long way from ready for this job. Key for him is to leave the safe CRUSADERS / Canterbury environment and to get some overseas experience. And mature a bit
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@SammyC said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Bunch of idiots, can't see anything but a continuation of the downward slide we are currently on.
Brad Mooar (if confirmed) is not a huge surprise. I've heard that Razor and him don't really get along.
Razor is a long way from ready for this job. Key for him is to leave the safe CRUSADERS / Canterbury environment and to get some overseas experience. And mature a bit
@Winger said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@SammyC said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Bunch of idiots, can't see anything but a continuation of the downward slide we are currently on.
Brad Mooar (if confirmed) is not a huge surprise. I've heard that Razor and him don't really get along.
Razor is a long way from ready for this job. Key for him is to leave the safe
CRUSADERSDOCKERS / Canterbury environment and to get some overseas experience. And mature a bitFixed
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Congratulations to Ian. A proud moment for him and his family.
I think he’ll bring something different to what we’ve seen over the last little while. Similar to Hansen who changed things up a bit post-Henry.
I’m hopeful and wish him and the new coaching team well.
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weeelll the collective wisdom of the Fern thought Shag's appointment in 2011 was a bit bleak too.
Massive failure with Wales, powder puff forwards, lineout woes, terrible relationship with the media....
Lets hope we are all wrong again in 2020
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weeelll the collective wisdom of the Fern thought Shag's appointment in 2011 was a bit bleak too.
Massive failure with Wales, powder puff forwards, lineout woes, terrible relationship with the media....
Lets hope we are all wrong again in 2020
@dogmeat said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
weeelll the collective wisdom of the Fern thought Shag's appointment in 2011 was a bit bleak too.
Massive failure with Wales, powder puff forwards, lineout woes, terrible relationship with the media....
Lets hope we are all wrong again in 2020
Conversely there were high expectations heading into 2000 after the Wayne Smith appointment and things didn’t really pan out that well....
