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  • TeWaioT TeWaio

    AJ is done I reckon, mentally shot, rumour is he had a panic attack before the first Ruiz fight. He'll lose this then retire. He doesn't even really like boxing, he was manufactured into the sport, he'll take the $$$ and run.

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    @TeWaio said in Boxing Thread:

    AJ is done I reckon, mentally shot, rumour is he had a panic attack before the first Ruiz fight. He'll lose this then retire. He doesn't even really like boxing, he was manufactured into the sport, he'll take the $$$ and run.

    Well this aged like milk spilt in the sun.

    Boring fight, Ruiz looked clueless against a more nimble/cautious AJ. Reminded me of Tua's title fight against Lewis back in the day. Smaller more powerful man just schooled from range.

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      AJ did what he had to. Good on him but Ruiz has always struggled when people don't engage with him. Parker did the same in the 2nd half of their fight and Ruiz couldn't cut off the ring and the same happened yesterday. Ruiz let himself down coming in morbidy obese like that and has no one to blame but himself.

      Good performance by AJ but hardly a masterclass. Hearn couldn't wait to change the subject in regards to a unification so that won't be happening next/ever. Expect a soft touch against Pulev if the IBF mandatory gets called or maybe they keep it in house and give Whyte or Michael Hunter a go next....yay.

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      @African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:

      AJ did what he had to. Good on him but Ruiz has always struggled when people don't engage with him. Parker did the same in the 2nd half of their fight and Ruiz couldn't cut off the ring and the same happened yesterday. Ruiz let himself down coming in morbidy obese like that and has no one to blame but himself.

      True, but he didn't look gassed going the full 12. I guess because he was able to occupy the middle of the ring while AJ danced around him for 36mins.

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        It's hard to enjoy a fight like this as a casual or a true fight fan. Ruiz turning up in that condition and 2 months late to his training camp basically decided the outcome before anyone bought a ticket. He had the opportunity to put a more positive spin on the Buster Douglas scenario. But he just ended up securing the bag. I'd imagine $9m buys a lot of tamales for the cholos back in the barrio, I kid, I kid. But for real it was a wasted opportunity to cement his position, as I still think he had AJ number.

        AJ boxed a masterclass in scared boxing for most of the fight. It was still box and all power to him. He stayed safe, out of Ruiz firing line and I think he can grow from that performance. Still boring to watch though.

        AJ fights Usyk next as his mandatory and I expect he'll probably fight safe again. Fury vs Wilder 2 is the next super fight and AJ will want to make sure he has the belts to take on the winner of that. If the stars align it'll be Fury vs Aj and both fighters will get $100m paydays.

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          Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

          Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

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            Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

            Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

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            @Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:

            Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

            Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

            If the money was massive I do believe they would,

            But I think they will try and milk every cent they can out of the sport firstbefore they take that risk,

            I think fury is just as risky for a different reason , he may not knock him out , but could box his ears off and humiliate him

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

              Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

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              @Bovidae Nah, or if they do, they'll wait for him to get old. AJ's team know how chinny he is and they don't want any part of it. Hearn will continue to milk his cash cow and will chuck him in with Pulev and Whyte next year.....yay.

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                @Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:

                Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

                Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

                If the money was massive I do believe they would,

                But I think they will try and milk every cent they can out of the sport firstbefore they take that risk,

                I think fury is just as risky for a different reason , he may not knock him out , but could box his ears off and humiliate him

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                @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                @Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:

                Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

                Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

                If the money was massive I do believe they would,

                But I think they will try and milk every cent they can out of the sport firstbefore they take that risk,

                I think fury is just as risky for a different reason , he may not knock him out , but could box his ears off and humiliate him

                If Fury gets past Wilder then he can really put the pressure on AJ via the UK Press. This is the match up that would fill Wembley easily and has a great backstory. AJ hasn't proved himself against the guy that held the titles before him.

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                  @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                  @Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:

                  Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

                  Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

                  If the money was massive I do believe they would,

                  But I think they will try and milk every cent they can out of the sport firstbefore they take that risk,

                  I think fury is just as risky for a different reason , he may not knock him out , but could box his ears off and humiliate him

                  If Fury gets past Wilder then he can really put the pressure on AJ via the UK Press. This is the match up that would fill Wembley easily and has a great backstory. AJ hasn't proved himself against the guy that held the titles before him.

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                  @Crucial said in Boxing Thread:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                  @Bovidae said in Boxing Thread:

                  Does anyone think AJ will ever fight Wilder?

                  Hearn seems to make excuses whenever the topic is raised. For that reason I want Wilder to beat Fury so Joshua can't avoid him if he wants a unification fight.

                  If the money was massive I do believe they would,

                  But I think they will try and milk every cent they can out of the sport firstbefore they take that risk,

                  I think fury is just as risky for a different reason , he may not knock him out , but could box his ears off and humiliate him

                  If Fury gets past Wilder then he can really put the pressure on AJ via the UK Press. This is the match up that would fill Wembley easily and has a great backstory. AJ hasn't proved himself against the guy that held the titles before him.

                  it would be a boring, cagey fight though.

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                  • A African Monkey

                    @Bovidae Nah, or if they do, they'll wait for him to get old. AJ's team know how chinny he is and they don't want any part of it. Hearn will continue to milk his cash cow and will chuck him in with Pulev and Whyte next year.....yay.

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                    @African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:

                    @Bovidae Nah, or if they do, they'll wait for him to get old. AJ's team know how chinny he is and they don't want any part of it. Hearn will continue to milk his cash cow and will chuck him in with Pulev and Whyte next year.....yay.

                    And continue to convince AJs fans , its Wilder that doesnt want it

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                      @African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:

                      @Bovidae Nah, or if they do, they'll wait for him to get old. AJ's team know how chinny he is and they don't want any part of it. Hearn will continue to milk his cash cow and will chuck him in with Pulev and Whyte next year.....yay.

                      And continue to convince AJs fans , its Wilder that doesnt want it

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                      @kiwiinmelb Exactly. I see he tried to pull the usual line of 'Wilder isn't known and he doesn't sell' bullshit again which his silly Matchroom fans/football hooligans will buy as usual, yet is more than happy to bring borderline top 10 fighters like Carlos Takam/past it fighters like Alexander Povetkin over for stadium fights. Clearly, according to Hearn, these fighters mare more known to the public than Deontay Wilder going by his logic.

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                        Love the boxing knowledge on the fern.

                        Fury vs Wilder part 2, thoughts resident pugilist pundits?

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                          Loving the "2 months later" interstitial.

                          Hoping to see something crazy like a Fury knocking Wilder out. Interesting that there is a rematch clause, if the money is right then you can bet on it happening regardless.

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                            Fury this time, as it should have been last time.

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                              Fury this time, as it should have been last time.

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                              Round 12: Tyson Fury's Resurrection Is pretty good if you can view it (30min). It’s from their last fight and includes snippets from Wilder. There seems to be some mutual admiration between the pair of them.

                              Not really sure what will happen this time. Despite Fury supposedly training for a knockout, I think he may nick it on points (even though it’s in the US) ... either that or Wilder will spark him before the mid rounds.

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                                This isnt rocket science , pretty much everyone is saying Fury on points or a wilder knockout ,

                                But Fury himself is predicting he will knockout Wilder , has switched trainers, being trained by Sugarhill Steward nephew to the great Emmanuel Steward , Sugarhill himself is saying they have been working on his power and will stop Wilder . So there is a bit of intrigue around all that, whether its foxing or real . He has put on size , that concerns me a bit . logic to me says he needs to be on the move, but that seems to suggest they will fight him on the inside , more intrigue.

                                While wilder isnt a great boxer , his power is real , very unorthodox in that seemingly winning rounds on points isnt important to them , its all about stalking his opponent down to deliver the finishing blow and while his boxing skills arent great , his ability to cut off space and set traps is under rated, particularly with distance. i think we will see a more composed Wilder this time , both fighters should be better.

                                Intriguing fight , ive been switching back and forward who I think will win, since it was announced .

                                Two undefeated heavyweights in their prime.

                                No doubt Fury will take the majority of the rounds , but will he elude that big right hand ?

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                                  just watched this , the walking talking encyclopedia of boxing Max kellerman gives some great analysis ,

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                                    Eddie Hearn got bagged for saying it ,

                                    But said a couple of weeks ago , he is switching his tip to wilder , Can’t say exactly what I’ve heard , but heard fury’s camp has not gone So well ,

                                    Now in the days leading up to the fight , rumours have surfaced , fury’s cut from the previous fight has shown some not to good signs , and he hasn’t been able to spar properly, plus aggravated an ankle and hasn’t done any road work

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                                      Just about to start...looking at the entrance walk ins you could be forgiven for thinking this was pro wrestling..Fury comical..Wilder..well a little feminine

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                                        Cracking watch. Fury looking very dominant. Wilder going to need a lucky shot.

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                                          Wilder is toast.

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