Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Bit of spin and bounce for Astle now. That should play into our hands with the two spinners.
Aussie will be batting last on this pitch, assuming we go for the bat once, bat big strategy.
Astle gets Labushayne cheaply for just 215. Advantage Black Caps.
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@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.
The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.
Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.
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and another....ripping through them!
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Embarrassing collapse here for Aus.
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That was a fucking sharp catch
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@No-Quarter yep, dunno why we keep having tests against them.
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@taniwharugby said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter yep, dunno why we keep having tests against them.
Looking forward to us teaching them a lesson in test match batting.
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@No-Quarter I think we should bowl some pies at thier bowlers to tire them out, then strike just before dinner and then smash some runs to end the day against thier tired attack.
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I expect us to match that scorecard
Well, except the double hundred in the middle. First innings deficit of 200 seems about right
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tore them a new one, finally...
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@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.
The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.
Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.
Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.
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@hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.
The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.
Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.
Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.
Also these guys aren't just quick. They are quick and accurate.
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@hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.
The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.
Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.
Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.
Take your point, but, I'm not sure it does that much in SA either and NZ pitches haven't exactly been green seamers for quite a while now. There's a lot to be said for someone that can actually bowl a consistent line and length to exploit even the smallest amount of movement from the seam.
That said 120km is obviously too slow to be a frontline seamer.
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@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.
The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.
Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.
Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.
Take your point, but, I'm not sure it does that much in SA either and NZ pitches haven't exactly been green seamers for quite a while now. There's a lot to be said for someone that can actually bowl a consistent line and length to exploit even the smallest amount of movement from the seam.
That said 120km is obviously too slow to be a frontline seamer.
3 to 6 inches of extra bounce with pace though eh? That's a point of difference
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@Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.
The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.
Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.
Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.
Take your point, but, I'm not sure it does that much in SA either and NZ pitches haven't exactly been green seamers for quite a while now. There's a lot to be said for someone that can actually bowl a consistent line and length to exploit even the smallest amount of movement from the seam.
That said 120km is obviously too slow to be a frontline seamer.
3 to 6 inches of extra bounce with pace though eh? That's a point of difference
Cummins is really the perfect fast bowler. Bowls above 140km with height and is deadly accurate. Which is why he has a 21 bowling average and is rated number 1.
Starc by comparison doesn't have the same accuracy so averages 27. Still very good, but not an all time great by any stretch despite having the same height and bowling 10km faster on a regular basis.
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This has been some very impressive fast bowling. Can't complain too much if we fall in a heap.
However the trick is going to be to just bat for as long as we can. Let's bat all tomorrow and until lunch on day 4 and it should get easier.
I'll bet these bowlers won't be as impressive with the third new ball as they are with the first one.
