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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #1127

    I expect us to match that scorecard

    Well, except the double hundred in the middle. First innings deficit of 200 seems about right

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #1128

    tore them a new one, finally...

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    @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.

    The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.

    Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.

    Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.

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    @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.

    The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.

    Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.

    Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.

    Also these guys aren't just quick. They are quick and accurate.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
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    #1131

    @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.

    The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.

    Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.

    Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.

    Take your point, but, I'm not sure it does that much in SA either and NZ pitches haven't exactly been green seamers for quite a while now. There's a lot to be said for someone that can actually bowl a consistent line and length to exploit even the smallest amount of movement from the seam.

    That said 120km is obviously too slow to be a frontline seamer.

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    Godder
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    #1132

    Pace makes good seam bowling harder to play, but that scorecard finished a lot better than it was looking earlier.

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  • SiamS Offline
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    @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.

    The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.

    Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.

    Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.

    Take your point, but, I'm not sure it does that much in SA either and NZ pitches haven't exactly been green seamers for quite a while now. There's a lot to be said for someone that can actually bowl a consistent line and length to exploit even the smallest amount of movement from the seam.

    That said 120km is obviously too slow to be a frontline seamer.

    3 to 6 inches of extra bounce with pace though eh? That's a point of difference

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  • SiamS Offline
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    Siam
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    #1134

    Dangerous pitch. Call it off. Match drawn

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    #1135

    Those first two balls from Cummins ... We are so fucked

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
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    @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @hydro11 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    CDG is bowling well this series. He's let himself down with the bat (albeit sawn off by a dodge umpiring decision once) but his bowling has been surprisingly effective.

    The Aus commentators have been wanking on about pace being the difference, but they're full of shit really. Pace can help provide a point of difference, but some of the greatest seam bowlers of all time didn't get much above 130km.

    Vernon Philander is a good modern day example. 220 wickets at 21.99 and barely breaks the 130km mark. Starc could only dream of test stats like that.

    Pace is important in Australia because the ball doesn't do much. In New Zealand, it doesn't matter so much.

    Take your point, but, I'm not sure it does that much in SA either and NZ pitches haven't exactly been green seamers for quite a while now. There's a lot to be said for someone that can actually bowl a consistent line and length to exploit even the smallest amount of movement from the seam.

    That said 120km is obviously too slow to be a frontline seamer.

    3 to 6 inches of extra bounce with pace though eh? That's a point of difference

    Cummins is really the perfect fast bowler. Bowls above 140km with height and is deadly accurate. Which is why he has a 21 bowling average and is rated number 1.

    Starc by comparison doesn't have the same accuracy so averages 27. Still very good, but not an all time great by any stretch despite having the same height and bowling 10km faster on a regular basis.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    #1137

    This has been some very impressive fast bowling. Can't complain too much if we fall in a heap.

    However the trick is going to be to just bat for as long as we can. Let's bat all tomorrow and until lunch on day 4 and it should get easier.

    I'll bet these bowlers won't be as impressive with the third new ball as they are with the first one.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    #1138

    As well as Stanlake who won't be sighted - they were just showing this ball from Riley Meredith that cleaned up Stoinis - so yet another tall bowler who gets it through around 150kmh.

    This is fucking nasty!

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #1139

    What the heck is going on with this pitch.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    Damo
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    #1140

    It thought for a second the umpire was going to give that.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Damo on last edited by
    #1141

    @Damo well it was Erasmus...

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    taniwharugby
    replied to Damo on last edited by
    #1142

    @Damo fuck scoring, bat for time...something usually alien to BCs batsmen though.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    Damo
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #1143

    @KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo well it was Erasmus...

    I think the commentator was just about suggesting that it should have been given out.

    FFS. If the stumps had one less coat of varnish the prediction would have been that it would have missed.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #1144

    @KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo well it was Erasmus...

    I am shocked he actually turned down an Australian appeal.

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    Godder
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #1145

    @taniwharugby said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @Damo fuck scoring, bat for time...something usually alien to BCs batsmen though.

    Need to do both, batting time and not scoring runs does nothing useful this early.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
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    #1146

    Pitch is dodgy as fuck already. If this goes 5 days it might actually get called off.

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