50 Years of Star Trek - RIP
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@raznomore Like The Orville doctor boning the blob character?
Pretty much agree. The consensus seems to be that the writers don't understand Star Trek at all, certainly what made it popular. They read that it covered politics so think that they can make crude analogies to the dumpster fire that is US Politics.
The crucial part they forget is that the underlying foundation of Star Trek was a hopeful, optimistic future where we had moved past the pettiness of 20th Century politics. And the conflict was with aliens to make their political points. The crew basically got along and worked as a team.
Modern Star Trek is basically the inverse of that melded with vacuous Star Wars like action. The Aliens are pretty much the good guys (refugees in Picard) and the Federation is a corupt, milteralistic, war monging shit show.
And in Discovery people don't follow orders or work as a team to understand and solve problems together.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Modern Star Trek is basically the inverse of that melded with vacuous Star Wars like action.
I quite like Discovery (less focus on Micahel though would be better) and love the original series but I guess I'm not a really a deep enough fan for this to be an issue for me.
But I think I understand where you're coming from by how I feel about Mission Impossible. I want an old school Mission Impossible, where the team gets a mission and they accomplish it. Yet every movie they're doing their own stuff against corrupt government officials etc.
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He really does an unhealthy depth of knowledge of Star Trek.
They are basically right, four episodes in and he’s still putting the team together. It just needs to get moving with the main story.
And I completely agree with the view about Earth having poverty and classism, etc. That was the main point of Star Trek, they had diversity, true merit based diversity, in the 60s. It literally didn’t matter about age, sex or race. Equal opportunity for all.
That said, I love that acting and special effects are this good by a matter of course (compare the acting to the 90s show). They need better writers and a show runner that understands the vision.
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“Rag” moves at a good clip, staying focused entirely on the stories of Picard and his crew and their visit to Freecloud; no distracting, pointless side-trips to check in on Soji and the V.C. Andrews Assassins.
Shame about the crappy Whedon female character though.
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
“Rag” moves at a good clip, staying focused entirely on the stories of Picard and his crew and their visit to Freecloud; no distracting, pointless side-trips to check in on Soji and the V.C. Andrews Assassins.
Shame about the crappy Whedon female character though.
The blonde scientist? Yeah, annoying.
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Kirwan Yeah I did. I was thinking at the time: this is some fucked up shit to put into something that kids might watch.
Completely unnecessary for Star Trek, even Battlestar Galatica didn't show Tigh losing his eye, and that show was pretty grim.
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Im just wondering though, this is a nostalgia show. Are kids watching this shit?
I have a ton of kids in my extended family. Anime nerds & manga nerds. Star Wars geeks and Marvel freaks.
All at worrying levels of fandom. I mean they are so in the know for young kids its not the normal passing interest. None of them care about star trek.
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@raznomore said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Im just wondering though, this is a nostalgia show. Are kids watching this shit?
I have a ton of kids in my extended family. Anime nerds & manga nerds. Star Wars geeks and Marvel freaks.
All at worrying levels of fandom. I mean they are so in the know for young kids its not the normal passing interest. None of them care about star trek.
Well I was going to see (if it was any good) getting my 12 year old to watch with me. He does not need to see gore porn like that.
Didn’t even occur to me that Picard would have that sort of violence.
And yep, my son watched most of the Marvel and freaking loved the Mandalorian.
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@raznomore This is the only forum or subreddit I frequent where I've seen it discussed. I haven't met anyone else in real life who's interested in it, and I'm a STEM academic.
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@raznomore This is the only forum or subreddit I frequent where I've seen it discussed. I haven't met anyone else in real life who's interested in it, and I'm a STEM academic.
It’s the perfect time in the culture for a show about optimism and working together. The TOS tackled some pretty weighty topics without sacrificing the quality of the show.
