Boxing Thread
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Eddie Hearn got bagged for saying it ,
But said a couple of weeks ago , he is switching his tip to wilder , Can’t say exactly what I’ve heard , but heard fury’s camp has not gone So well ,
Now in the days leading up to the fight , rumours have surfaced , fury’s cut from the previous fight has shown some not to good signs , and he hasn’t been able to spar properly, plus aggravated an ankle and hasn’t done any road work
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Eddie Hearn got bagged for saying it ,
But said a couple of weeks ago , he is switching his tip to wilder , Can’t say exactly what I’ve heard , but heard fury’s camp has not gone So well ,
Now in the days leading up to the fight , rumours have surfaced , fury’s cut from the previous fight has shown some not to good signs , and he hasn’t been able to spar properly, plus aggravated an ankle and hasn’t done any road work
Eddie don't know shit
Or dictating the betting.
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The fight plan , to go forward and be aggressive, Against the punching power of wilder ,
Was courageous and brilliantly executed
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Fury is so many things he shouldn't be. He looks like a gangly mess of arms and legs but he's light on his feet and a pretty gracefull fighter. He looks like he should gas but he doesn't.
I think he's probably restored the faith of a lot of pugilists purists. He's a real boxer. He goes out there with a plan and executes it. He used his weight perfectly and it was ultimately Wilder's own signature punch, straight right, from Fury that stopped the fight. To have had someone like Wilder, a non boxer, at the top for so long genuinely annoyed people. Me included. To have someone in that position routinely saying he wanted to kill people in the ring is fantastic to have gone. This sport doesn't need shit like that.
Never liked Fury, thought he was just some goofball that got lucky a whole lot. But he's easily the best HW since Lennox Lewis. The Klitschko's deserve their praise but he is better.
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Fury is so many things he shouldn't be. He looks like a gangly mess of arms and legs but he's light on his feet and a pretty gracefull fighter. He looks like he should gas but he doesn't.
I think he's probably restored the faith of a lot of pugilists purists. He's a real boxer. He goes out there with a plan and executes it. He used his weight perfectly and it was ultimately Wilder's own signature punch, straight right, from Fury that stopped the fight. To have had someone like Wilder, a non boxer, at the top for so long genuinely annoyed people. Me included. To have someone in that position routinely saying he wanted to kill people in the ring is fantastic to have gone. This sport doesn't need shit like that.
Never liked Fury, thought he was just some goofball that got lucky a whole lot. But he's easily the best HW since Lennox Lewis. The Klitschko's deserve their praise but he is better.
@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
Never liked him, thought he was just some goofball that got lucky a whole lot.
Ditto. But I'll happily admit he has proved me wrong. He can box.
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/51623455
It was pretty damn elaborate.
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Wilder confirmed he's exercising the rematch clause.
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Fury is so many things he shouldn't be. He looks like a gangly mess of arms and legs but he's light on his feet and a pretty gracefull fighter. He looks like he should gas but he doesn't.
I think he's probably restored the faith of a lot of pugilists purists. He's a real boxer. He goes out there with a plan and executes it. He used his weight perfectly and it was ultimately Wilder's own signature punch, straight right, from Fury that stopped the fight. To have had someone like Wilder, a non boxer, at the top for so long genuinely annoyed people. Me included. To have someone in that position routinely saying he wanted to kill people in the ring is fantastic to have gone. This sport doesn't need shit like that.
Never liked Fury, thought he was just some goofball that got lucky a whole lot. But he's easily the best HW since Lennox Lewis. The Klitschko's deserve their praise but he is better.
@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
Fury is so many things he shouldn't be. He looks like a gangly mess of arms and legs but he's light on his feet and a pretty gracefull fighter. He looks like he should gas but he doesn't.
I think he's probably restored the faith of a lot of pugilists purists. He's a real boxer. He goes out there with a plan and executes it. He used his weight perfectly and it was ultimately Wilder's own signature punch, straight right, from Fury that stopped the fight. To have had someone like Wilder, a non boxer, at the top for so long genuinely annoyed people. Me included. To have someone in that position routinely saying he wanted to kill people in the ring is fantastic to have gone. This sport doesn't need shit like that.
Never liked Fury, thought he was just some goofball that got lucky a whole lot. But he's easily the best HW since Lennox Lewis. The Klitschko's deserve their praise but he is better.
And at 6 foot 9 and 123 kilos he is a monster , that sheer bulk to go with his skills , would probably make him awkward to fight for anyone in history , i think its fair to say that now
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It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
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It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
Agree 100%, it doesn't make sense for anyone except Wilder's bank account.
Fury v Joshua would be massive.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
Agree 100%, it doesn't make sense for anyone except Wilder's bank account.
Fury v Joshua would be massive.
@mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
Agree 100%, it doesn't make sense for anyone except Wilder's bank account.
Fury v Joshua would be massive.
Fury v Wilder 3 is a done deal.
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@mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
Agree 100%, it doesn't make sense for anyone except Wilder's bank account.
Fury v Joshua would be massive.
Fury v Wilder 3 is a done deal.
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@MiketheSnow
Just read now there are talks of pushing it till late this year and having Joshua v Fury in summer.@mofitzy_ said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow
Just read now there are talks of pushing it till late this year and having Joshua v Fury in summer.Hope so
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Most of that talk seems to comes from Eddie then the media jump on it ,
Havent heard anything too positive from Arum or Warren , when questioned they just continue to hang shit on eddie ,
Fury also has 2 fight left with his deal with ESPN which have to be in the US,
Contracts can be brought out , but im guessing he will have another fight in the US , see out Wilder 3 ,
Then look to Joshua and Whyte (who has the mandatory fight for the WBA title in 2021 )
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It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
The funny thing was Freddie Roach( who was in their corner ) said after the first fight , he advised after round 11 , attack him . when he is defending he cant set himself up to throw his money punch ,
Davidson over ruled him and look what happened , when he got up he went on the attack , you wonder if that played its part in Tyson going to Kronk .
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
The funny thing was Freddie Roach( who was in their corner ) said after the first fight , he advised after round 11 , attack him . when he is defending he cant set himself up to throw his money punch ,
Davidson over ruled him and look what happened , when he got up he went on the attack , you wonder if that played its part in Tyson going to Kronk .
@kiwiinmelb Exactly right I was meant to mention that too. Roach was very critical of Davidson's tactics. The only time we saw Fury dominate and go for broke was after the 2nd KD in round 12. I guess that's the difference in experience. Also, Fury only wanted Sugar Hill to assist with Davidson for the 2nd fight, but Davidson declined and left as a result.
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Saw this earlier on Facebook...crackup
https://www.facebook.com/199185953427963/posts/3094915643854965/?vh=e
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Very much in agreement with posters above, that was very impressive from Fury, didn't think he had it in him to do that but showed he has the tools.
Interesting comments here from Joe Rogan on the fight and how Fury decided what strategy he would employ in the rematch based on what happened in the first.
