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Hurricanes 2020

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  • ToddyT Toddy

    Looking at the that Canes 'Magpies' 15 you can see why the Canes don't really bother picking Hawkes Bay players. That 15 wouldn't even make the semis of the NPC.

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    @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2020:

    Looking at the that Canes 'Magpies' 15 you can see why the Canes don't really bother picking Hawkes Bay players. That 15 wouldn't even make the semis of the NPC.

    Wouldn’t you need to compare it to a “non canes” magpie team to come to that conclusion?

    @Stargazer should be able to put one of those together pretty quickly. Would be interesting to see.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      Here's the Hurricanes U20 squad with the players' provinces for those who are interested:

      15 Drew Wild (Manawatū)
      14 Roderick Solo (Wellington)
      13 Josiah Maraku (Manawatū)
      12 Danny Toala (Hawke's Bay)
      11 Ethan Webster Nonu (Wellington)
      10 Aidan Morgan (Wellington)
      9 Isaac Bracewell (Wellington)
      8 Iona Apineru (Wellington)
      7 Josh Southall [C] (Wellington)
      6 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
      5 Liam Mitchell (Manawatū)
      4 Hugo Plummer (Wellington)
      3 Luke Chisolm (Wellington)
      2 Tyrone Thompson (Wellington)
      1 Niko Manaena (Wellington)

      Reserves
      16 Ben Strang (Manawatū)
      17 Joseph Gavigan (Manawatū)
      18 Flyn Yates (Manawatū)
      19 Ofa Tauatevalu (Manawatū)
      20 Sam Smith (Wellington)
      21 Lattrell Ah Kiong (Hawke's Bay)
      22 Stu Cruden (Manawatū)
      23 Kienan Higgins (Wellington)

      And here's the Canes' media release: https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-u20-side-named-to-play-in-napier/

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      @Stargazer At the risk of offending @Canes4life again, FFS, the Canes really are taking the piss. It's one thing to have a senior team with barely any Magpies but an U20s team with less than the Poo even in an era where the Hawkes Bay high schools beat Wellington high schools like they're red head step sons is ludacris. Go fuck yourself Wellington Hurricanes. 🙂

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Stargazer At the risk of offending @Canes4life again, FFS, the Canes really are taking the piss. It's one thing to have a senior team with barely any Magpies but an U20s team with less than the Poo even in an era where the Hawkes Bay high schools beat Wellington high schools like they're red head step sons is ludacris. Go fuck yourself Wellington Hurricanes. 🙂

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        @Nepia zzzzzzz.

        You Bay boys are just talentless. That Hawkes Bay Canes XV is a joke. Learn how to develop your players better instead of pointing the finger at Wellington. To make matters worse you have two Wellington boys in that XV. 😂😂😂

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Stargazer At the risk of offending @Canes4life again, FFS, the Canes really are taking the piss. It's one thing to have a senior team with barely any Magpies but an U20s team with less than the Poo even in an era where the Hawkes Bay high schools beat Wellington high schools like they're red head step sons is ludacris. Go fuck yourself Wellington Hurricanes. 🙂

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          @Nepia does it really matter where the players come from? You could always jump waka again until you find a regional base that's represented to your satisfaction.

          Canterbury seems to have pretty good representation at all levels....

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            🍿

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              @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

              Much better alternatives
              12 George Konia (1996)
              14 Roger Randle (1996, 1997)
              6 Dallas Seymour (1996) or Gordon Falcon (2000)
              1 Orcades Crawford (1998)

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                Surprised no one has mentioned Hika Elliot or Cory Jane

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  Surprised no one has mentioned Hika Elliot or Cory Jane

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                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                  Surprised no one has mentioned Hika Elliot or Cory Jane

                  Cory Jane belong to the Bay as much as @nepia belongs on this thread.

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                  • Number 10N Number 10

                    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                    Much better alternatives
                    12 George Konia (1996)
                    14 Roger Randle (1996, 1997)
                    6 Dallas Seymour (1996) or Gordon Falcon (2000)
                    1 Orcades Crawford (1998)

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                    @Number-10

                    And indeed Hika Elliot at 2, but not Cory Jane in the XV, who played fullback for the Magpies. He's not getting that 15 spot from Cunningham.

                    I'd name Brendon Edmonds at 3 instead of May.

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                    • jeggaJ jegga

                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      Surprised no one has mentioned Hika Elliot or Cory Jane

                      Cory Jane belong to the Bay as much as @nepia belongs on this thread.

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                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      @Nepia zzzzzzz.

                      You Bay boys are just talentless. That Hawkes Bay Canes XV is a joke. Learn how to develop your players better instead of pointing the finger at Wellington. To make matters worse you have two Wellington boys in that XV. 😂😂😂

                      What's this "you" business - that's a Wellington Canes chosen team, hence their ineptness in choosing a player who didn't play for the Magpies when he was in the Canes.

                      @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      @Nepia does it really matter where the players come from? You could always jump waka again until you find a regional base that's represented to your satisfaction.

                      Canterbury seems to have pretty good representation at all levels....

                      :angry_face:
                      I'm good with my current waka who have been supportive of the Magpies over the years - compare this tight five: Sona, Hika, Ben T, Retallick and Allardice to that Canes one.

                      @jegga said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      Surprised no one has mentioned Hika Elliot or Cory Jane

                      Cory Jane belong to the Bay as much as @nepia belongs on this thread.

                      Just like Cory I'm from the region so have every right to come in here and have a hissy fit as much the next man.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Number-10

                        And indeed Hika Elliot at 2, but not Cory Jane in the XV, who played fullback for the Magpies. He's not getting that 15 spot from Cunningham.

                        I'd name Brendon Edmonds at 3 instead of May.

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                        I'd name Brendon Edmonds at 3 instead of May.

                        Did Edmonds every play for Canes? I thought he was only Highlanders

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                        • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

                          I'd name Brendon Edmonds at 3 instead of May.

                          Did Edmonds every play for Canes? I thought he was only Highlanders

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                          @Stockcar86 He played exactly one single game for the Canes, on 31 May 2014 when he came off the bench against the Blues. He is Hurricane #205.

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                            MEET THE PLAYER: DEVAN FLANDERS

                            Devan Flanders, like many before him, grew up with the goal of wearing the yellow and black Hurricanes jersey.
                            
                            While for most, it’s a pipeline dream – Flanders had cracked it before even getting out of his teens.
                            
                            From a rugby mad family in Hastings, Hawke’s Bay - the 20-year-old flanker first signed up to Havelock North Rugby Club at the tender age of four.
                            
                            He says, it wasn’t long before he was hooked.
                            
                            “We were always playing rugby when we could. Both my brothers, all my cousins and my dad played rugby and they love watching it too.”
                            
                            Although, it was high school that Flanders really made a name for himself. Drafted into the Hurricanes Under-18’s squad he was also a pivotal part of helping Hastings Boy’s High to its first ever national title in 2017.
                            
                            He then went on to play in the New Zealand Secondary Schools team and received the Jerry Collins Memorial Bronze Boot for most valuable player.
                            
                            With awards racking up, Flanders began a meteoric rise through the senior rugby ranks which saw him play for Mitre 10 Cup team the Magpies before receiving his first professional contract with the Hurricanes for the 2020 season.
                            
                            “It was always a dream of mine to play for the Hurricanes – in fact it was all I wanted to do when I was older, “Flanders says.
                            
                            Flanders says making his debut against the Stormers in Cape Town was an incredibly proud moment.
                            
                             “My family and I were so excited and nervous before that first game. It was a very surreal moment, where I could finally see how far I’d come in my career.”
                            
                            And, despite having achieved his childhood goal of becoming a part of the Hurricanes, he’s now invested in learning everything he can from his teammates both on and off the field.
                            
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                              Hawke's Bay Today's report of the Hurricanes U20 v Blues U20 game.

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12312812

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                                Hurricanes Hunters squad to play Blues A tomorrow:

                                15 Chase Tiatia
                                14 Josiah Maraku
                                13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                12 Danny Toala
                                11 Te Rangatira Waitokia
                                10 James Marshall
                                9 Jonathan Taumateine
                                8 Brayden Iose
                                7 Josh Kaifa
                                6 Solomone Funaki
                                5 Sam Liebezeit
                                4 Liam Mitchell
                                3 Ben May
                                2 Ricky Riccitelli
                                1 Sitiveni Paongo

                                Reserves
                                16 James O’Reilly
                                17 Morgan Poi
                                18 Luke Chisolm
                                19 Hugo Plummer
                                20 Shamus Langton Hurley
                                21 Kemara Hauiti Parapara
                                22 Aidan Morgan
                                23 Trent Renata
                                24 Frank Lochore

                                Interesting to see last year's Napier 1stXV lock Frank Lochore on the bench. I hope he's still in the Magpies Academy.

                                https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-hunter-squad-to-take-on-blues-a-named/

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                                  Anyone know much about Sam Liebezeit?

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                                    Anyone know much about Sam Liebezeit?

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                                    @Canes4life Ta$man lad, who played for West Coast, last year. Was also in the New Zealand Heartland XV squad of 2019.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      Hurricanes Hunters squad to play Blues A tomorrow:

                                      15 Chase Tiatia
                                      14 Josiah Maraku
                                      13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                      12 Danny Toala
                                      11 Te Rangatira Waitokia
                                      10 James Marshall
                                      9 Jonathan Taumateine
                                      8 Brayden Iose
                                      7 Josh Kaifa
                                      6 Solomone Funaki
                                      5 Sam Liebezeit
                                      4 Liam Mitchell
                                      3 Ben May
                                      2 Ricky Riccitelli
                                      1 Sitiveni Paongo

                                      Reserves
                                      16 James O’Reilly
                                      17 Morgan Poi
                                      18 Luke Chisolm
                                      19 Hugo Plummer
                                      20 Shamus Langton Hurley
                                      21 Kemara Hauiti Parapara
                                      22 Aidan Morgan
                                      23 Trent Renata
                                      24 Frank Lochore

                                      Interesting to see last year's Napier 1stXV lock Frank Lochore on the bench. I hope he's still in the Magpies Academy.

                                      https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-hunter-squad-to-take-on-blues-a-named/

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                                      @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                      Hurricanes Hunters squad to play Blues A tomorrow:

                                      15 Chase Tiatia
                                      14 Josiah Maraku
                                      13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                      12 Danny Toala
                                      11 Te Rangatira Waitokia
                                      10 James Marshall
                                      9 Jonathan Taumateine
                                      8 Brayden Iose
                                      7 Josh Kaifa
                                      6 Solomone Funaki
                                      5 Sam Liebezeit
                                      4 Liam Mitchell
                                      3 Ben May
                                      2 Ricky Riccitelli
                                      1 Sitiveni Paongo

                                      Reserves
                                      16 James O’Reilly
                                      17 Morgan Poi
                                      18 Luke Chisolm
                                      19 Hugo Plummer
                                      20 Shamus Langton Hurley
                                      21 Kemara Hauiti Parapara
                                      22 Aidan Morgan
                                      23 Trent Renata
                                      24 Frank Lochore

                                      Interesting to see last year's Napier 1stXV lock Frank Lochore on the bench. I hope he's still in the Magpies Academy.

                                      https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-hunter-squad-to-take-on-blues-a-named/

                                      Frank Lochore played for the Magpies WTG team against Auckland last Saturday.

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                                      • Number 10N Number 10

                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                        Hurricanes Hunters squad to play Blues A tomorrow:

                                        15 Chase Tiatia
                                        14 Josiah Maraku
                                        13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
                                        12 Danny Toala
                                        11 Te Rangatira Waitokia
                                        10 James Marshall
                                        9 Jonathan Taumateine
                                        8 Brayden Iose
                                        7 Josh Kaifa
                                        6 Solomone Funaki
                                        5 Sam Liebezeit
                                        4 Liam Mitchell
                                        3 Ben May
                                        2 Ricky Riccitelli
                                        1 Sitiveni Paongo

                                        Reserves
                                        16 James O’Reilly
                                        17 Morgan Poi
                                        18 Luke Chisolm
                                        19 Hugo Plummer
                                        20 Shamus Langton Hurley
                                        21 Kemara Hauiti Parapara
                                        22 Aidan Morgan
                                        23 Trent Renata
                                        24 Frank Lochore

                                        Interesting to see last year's Napier 1stXV lock Frank Lochore on the bench. I hope he's still in the Magpies Academy.

                                        https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-hunter-squad-to-take-on-blues-a-named/

                                        Frank Lochore played for the Magpies WTG team against Auckland last Saturday.

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                                        @Number-10 That's a relief.

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                                          Amazing to think Trent Renata was 10 for NZ Schoolboys when Kurtley Beale was 10 for Aus Schoolboys.

                                          Two very different careers those 2 have had.

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