Boxing Thread
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Most of that talk seems to comes from Eddie then the media jump on it ,
Havent heard anything too positive from Arum or Warren , when questioned they just continue to hang shit on eddie ,
Fury also has 2 fight left with his deal with ESPN which have to be in the US,
Contracts can be brought out , but im guessing he will have another fight in the US , see out Wilder 3 ,
Then look to Joshua and Whyte (who has the mandatory fight for the WBA title in 2021 )
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It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
The funny thing was Freddie Roach( who was in their corner ) said after the first fight , he advised after round 11 , attack him . when he is defending he cant set himself up to throw his money punch ,
Davidson over ruled him and look what happened , when he got up he went on the attack , you wonder if that played its part in Tyson going to Kronk .
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
It was a masterstroke changing trainers for Fury to improve his work on the inside. Don't get me wrong Ben Davidson did a decent job getting Fury back on track, but if Fury went into the rematch with the same plan as the first fight, he may have still won, but Wilder would have had much more of a chance of winning by setting up his one weapon - the straight right. With Fury's new tactic of marching Wilder down from the get go, it sapped a lot of energy out of Wilder early which had him backing up in straight lines which didn't allow Wilder to get into position to set up his right hand as well as getting hurt regularly early on as Wilder had no answer to Fury picking him off from the inside, so by the time Wilder started throwing his right hand, he couldn't generate any power from it as he couldn't set it up properly and was just as worried about what Fury was going to throw back at him.
In the first fight between the two, yes Fury was winning on points, but Wilder was never hurt, nor worried about what Fury was throwing back at him, just like Wilder figts in the past against Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz 2 etc. where he was getting out boxed even against Arreola in parts, but not hurt by these guys so he could virtually spend all night against those guys figuring a way to land his one and only weapon. Not this time however with Fury constantly on his chest battering him, his right hand was nullified with Fury using attack as the best form of defence, not hovering off the back foot trying to fight at range worrying about getting hurt by Wilder and trying to win on the cards, because if you fight with those tactics against Wilder, he Will eventually land that right hand. Him and his team were smart to duck Povetkin in 2016, the man who had the best inside game at the time.
If Joshua, Whyte or whoever fights Wilder in the future, they'll be smart to walk him down early and use their weight to their advantage by backing Wilder up in straight lines and tiring him out early. 1 thing I do hope we don't get is a 3rd Fury v Wilder fight. Fury is levels above Wilder.
The funny thing was Freddie Roach( who was in their corner ) said after the first fight , he advised after round 11 , attack him . when he is defending he cant set himself up to throw his money punch ,
Davidson over ruled him and look what happened , when he got up he went on the attack , you wonder if that played its part in Tyson going to Kronk .
@kiwiinmelb Exactly right I was meant to mention that too. Roach was very critical of Davidson's tactics. The only time we saw Fury dominate and go for broke was after the 2nd KD in round 12. I guess that's the difference in experience. Also, Fury only wanted Sugar Hill to assist with Davidson for the 2nd fight, but Davidson declined and left as a result.
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Saw this earlier on Facebook...crackup
https://www.facebook.com/199185953427963/posts/3094915643854965/?vh=e
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Very much in agreement with posters above, that was very impressive from Fury, didn't think he had it in him to do that but showed he has the tools.
Interesting comments here from Joe Rogan on the fight and how Fury decided what strategy he would employ in the rematch based on what happened in the first.
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Mikey Garcia v Vargas free on mainevent ch 521 Foxtel in Aus tomorrow, Joseph is on the undercard
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Poor old JP wins in impressive fashion and only an Iron Mike video posted today lol.
Parker took a few too many hits to the head but he was never in doubt. He looks to have worked on power punching and although the opponent was really a cruiser weight he has won in strong fashion.
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main problem for Joe right now is getting fights ,
Seems like all the top heavyweights have got their fights/plans pretty close to mapped out for this year already ,
He may have to be content with fighting no bodies for a while longer
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main problem for Joe right now is getting fights ,
Seems like all the top heavyweights have got their fights/plans pretty close to mapped out for this year already ,
He may have to be content with fighting no bodies for a while longer
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
main problem for Joe right now is getting fights ,
Seems like all the top heavyweights have got their fights/plans pretty close to mapped out for this year already ,
He may have to be content with fighting no bodies for a while longer
Isn't he in line for a mandatory if Joshua can't maintain his obligations and has to vacate a belt?
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
main problem for Joe right now is getting fights ,
Seems like all the top heavyweights have got their fights/plans pretty close to mapped out for this year already ,
He may have to be content with fighting no bodies for a while longer
Isn't he in line for a mandatory if Joshua can't maintain his obligations and has to vacate a belt?
@Crucial said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
main problem for Joe right now is getting fights ,
Seems like all the top heavyweights have got their fights/plans pretty close to mapped out for this year already ,
He may have to be content with fighting no bodies for a while longer
Isn't he in line for a mandatory if Joshua can't maintain his obligations and has to vacate a belt?
Yes, he would fight Usyk for the vacant WBO belt.
@raznomore Unless Kiwis were prepared to pay to watch the Parker fight or find an illegal stream, most of us wouldn't have seen it. I only saw brief highlights on the evening news.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
main problem for Joe right now is getting fights ,
Seems like all the top heavyweights have got their fights/plans pretty close to mapped out for this year already ,
He may have to be content with fighting no bodies for a while longer
Isn't he in line for a mandatory if Joshua can't maintain his obligations and has to vacate a belt?
@Crucial said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
main problem for Joe right now is getting fights ,
Seems like all the top heavyweights have got their fights/plans pretty close to mapped out for this year already ,
He may have to be content with fighting no bodies for a while longer
Isn't he in line for a mandatory if Joshua can't maintain his obligations and has to vacate a belt?
That talk of vacating titles seems to have gone quiet now ,
Chisora and usyk are in line to fight in May
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Fuck
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@Dice that body suit dont look anywhere near thick enough...yikes!
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Because he was so brutal , I think his skill level was overlooked ,
His ability to go head body head at such speed and make it look so fluent is poetry in motion
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He certainly looks like he still has it and by golly he is a quirky, interesting character out of the ring too.
I don't know if ANYONE could have beaten him in his prime ( @raznomore could put this in better terms than I can ). One of those "what ifs" that always comes up.......Foreman/Tyson would certainly not have gone the distance that's for sure. Much taller guys like Lewis/Klitchkos/Fury etc would have the best chance out of anyone I suspect.
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@Dice I do wonder what would have transpired if Cus had another decade walking on this Earth.
Mike must have been a scary prospect in his prime. All boxers have that element of fear, the butterflies etc. prior to a fight, but facing him must have been terrifying. He had movement, speed and power. Watching old footage and you can see some of his opponents were beaten before the bell had rung. It looks like more than a few took the first opportunity to elect to stay on that mat too, thinking "fuck getting up for more of that".
As a kid I loved watching Mike fight.
