All Blacks XV - New second tier team

[mariner4life]

@Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:

Who's in the frame for selection?

If the Ofa T, Laulala, Moody, and Karl T + 1 are in the ABs, then who are the props?

spuds

but they won't be worse than the locks that are left

[Machpants]

Keep Calm
Piri's (put the weight) on

[Crucial]

Yes. A good tight five may be a struggle to find this year.
Then again it may be what is needed to develop one.

[Tim]

Eligible tightheads:

Moli
Taavao
Lomax
Mafileo
Tokolahi

Any others?

Looseheads:

Moli
Ross
Hodgman
Johnstone
Numia
Thwaites

[Tim]

Out of that lot I'm going to assume that Moli is in the ABs.

Taavao
Lomax

Ross
Hodgman

+1

[Nogusta]

This team will capture international status so I hope guys with dual eligibility think long and hard before they sign on!

[Tim]

Locks

Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Barrett + 1 in the ABs.

Contenders:

Allardice
Cowley-Tuioti
IWL
Dunshea
Strange
Dickson

Maybe Strange to the ABs, leaving IWL, GCT, and Dunshea for the B team. Dickson for fourth lock?

[Tim]

I'll skip loose forwards for now. Probably the toughest decisions there.

Halfbacks:

Assume that the three from the WC will stay in the ABs.

TTT and Hall obvious choices.

Nock
Drummond
Booth
Fakatava
Enari

I'd like to see more of Taumateine.

[Tim]

1st 5:

Big question over third AB ten.

Ioane, Black, and Smith are probably the most prominent this year. Perhaps two of those (Black and Smith) plus a player who covers 10 from another position like Havili, Stevenson, or Perofeta.

[Tim]

Roll on the midfield. Goodhue, ALB, and Laumape in the main squad. Perhaps Ennor too. Not a lot of 12s around.

Contenders:

TJ Faiane
Havili at 12?
Vince Aso
Tupaea

Some players like Nankivel, Walden, Thompson, Tele'a, and Manu haven't shown much or haven't had a chance yet.

[Tim]

Hooker

Only player guaranteed of a place is Taylor. Coles doesn't look like the same player, and it may be time to move on. He may also peak at the right time for the ABs. Unknown as of yet. Anyway, Taylor, Coles, and Taukei'aho for my AB picks.

Coltman and Aumua for two spots in the B team. Maybe Makalio for the third spot, but they may want someone younger.

[Tim]

Back three is hard to pick with so much talent about.

MacKenzie and Havili for AB fullbacks, with Ioane and Reece on the wing? Throw in a last chance for George Bridge, though I really hope not. I could also see them taking Jordie Barrett, though I really don't want to see him on the wing.

Contenders:

Telea
Stevenson
Wainui
Alaimalo
Goosen
Leicester Fainga'anuku
Will Jordan
Perofeta

There's also some players with the Sevens squad. Tough to pick.

[Tim]

Any takers to pick a 23?

[Kirwan]

Kind of would like to see the ABs play the AB XV

[taniwharugby]

@Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

[Kirwan]

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:

@Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

Yes, I miss those. Which was my poorly expressed point.

[Tim]

Can't answer the loose forward without looking at the ABs too. Last year's players were probably the weakest selection in a long time. Only two will be certain picks this year: Cane and Savea, who both prefer openside.

Openside:

Papalii
Bosher
Kirifi
Christie

Blindside:

Papalii
Robinson
Bosher
Jacobson
Fifita
Grace
Frizell

Number Eight:

(Savea)
Ioane
Sotutu
Jacobson
Evans
Mikaele-Tu'u
Douglas

[Kirwan]

@Tim some bloody good players coming through there.

[Tim]

@Kirwan Yeah, traditional strength of NZ indeed.

[Tim]

Be interesting to see if Jordie Barrett plays at 12.