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All Blacks XV - New second tier team

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    Nogusta
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    This team will capture international status so I hope guys with dual eligibility think long and hard before they sign on!

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      Tim
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      Locks

      Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Barrett + 1 in the ABs.

      Contenders:

      Allardice
      Cowley-Tuioti
      IWL
      Dunshea
      Strange
      Dickson

      Maybe Strange to the ABs, leaving IWL, GCT, and Dunshea for the B team. Dickson for fourth lock?

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        I'll skip loose forwards for now. Probably the toughest decisions there.

        Halfbacks:

        Assume that the three from the WC will stay in the ABs.

        TTT and Hall obvious choices.

        Nock
        Drummond
        Booth
        Fakatava
        Enari

        I'd like to see more of Taumateine.

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          1st 5:

          Big question over third AB ten.

          Ioane, Black, and Smith are probably the most prominent this year. Perhaps two of those (Black and Smith) plus a player who covers 10 from another position like Havili, Stevenson, or Perofeta.

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            Roll on the midfield. Goodhue, ALB, and Laumape in the main squad. Perhaps Ennor too. Not a lot of 12s around.

            Contenders:

            TJ Faiane
            Havili at 12?
            Vince Aso
            Tupaea

            Some players like Nankivel, Walden, Thompson, Tele'a, and Manu haven't shown much or haven't had a chance yet.

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              Hooker

              Only player guaranteed of a place is Taylor. Coles doesn't look like the same player, and it may be time to move on. He may also peak at the right time for the ABs. Unknown as of yet. Anyway, Taylor, Coles, and Taukei'aho for my AB picks.

              Coltman and Aumua for two spots in the B team. Maybe Makalio for the third spot, but they may want someone younger.

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                Back three is hard to pick with so much talent about.

                MacKenzie and Havili for AB fullbacks, with Ioane and Reece on the wing? Throw in a last chance for George Bridge, though I really hope not. I could also see them taking Jordie Barrett, though I really don't want to see him on the wing.

                Contenders:

                Telea
                Stevenson
                Wainui
                Alaimalo
                Goosen
                Leicester Fainga'anuku
                Will Jordan
                Perofeta

                There's also some players with the Sevens squad. Tough to pick.

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                  Any takers to pick a 23?

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                    Kirwan
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                    Kind of would like to see the ABs play the AB XV

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                      Kind of would like to see the ABs play the AB XV

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                      taniwharugby
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                      @Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

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                        @Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

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                        Kirwan
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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:

                        @Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

                        Yes, I miss those. Which was my poorly expressed point.

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                          Can't answer the loose forward without looking at the ABs too. Last year's players were probably the weakest selection in a long time. Only two will be certain picks this year: Cane and Savea, who both prefer openside.

                          Openside:

                          Papalii
                          Bosher
                          Kirifi
                          Christie

                          Blindside:

                          Papalii
                          Robinson
                          Bosher
                          Jacobson
                          Fifita
                          Grace
                          Frizell

                          Number Eight:

                          (Savea)
                          Ioane
                          Sotutu
                          Jacobson
                          Evans
                          Mikaele-Tu'u
                          Douglas

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                            Can't answer the loose forward without looking at the ABs too. Last year's players were probably the weakest selection in a long time. Only two will be certain picks this year: Cane and Savea, who both prefer openside.

                            Openside:

                            Papalii
                            Bosher
                            Kirifi
                            Christie

                            Blindside:

                            Papalii
                            Robinson
                            Bosher
                            Jacobson
                            Fifita
                            Grace
                            Frizell

                            Number Eight:

                            (Savea)
                            Ioane
                            Sotutu
                            Jacobson
                            Evans
                            Mikaele-Tu'u
                            Douglas

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                            Kirwan
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                            @Tim some bloody good players coming through there.

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                              @Tim some bloody good players coming through there.

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                              Tim
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                              @Kirwan Yeah, traditional strength of NZ indeed.

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                                Be interesting to see if Jordie Barrett plays at 12.

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                                  Locks

                                  Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Barrett + 1 in the ABs.

                                  Contenders:

                                  Allardice
                                  Cowley-Tuioti
                                  IWL
                                  Dunshea
                                  Strange
                                  Dickson

                                  Maybe Strange to the ABs, leaving IWL, GCT, and Dunshea for the B team. Dickson for fourth lock?

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:

                                  Locks

                                  Hopefully Parkinson is back to full fitness and performs.

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                                    #34

                                    Okay, time for a guess at a 23.

                                    1 Ross
                                    2 Coltman
                                    3 Taavao
                                    4 IWL
                                    5 Dunshea
                                    6 Jacobson
                                    7 Kirifi
                                    8 Sotutu
                                    9 Hall
                                    10 Black
                                    11 Talea
                                    12 Faiane
                                    13 Aso
                                    14 Stevenson/Bridge
                                    15 Barrett/Havili/Jordan

                                    16 Aumua
                                    17 Hodgman
                                    18 Lomax
                                    19 GCT
                                    20 Boshier
                                    21 TTT
                                    22 Smith
                                    23 Tupaea

                                    Of course, this will change depending non injuries and form in derby matches.

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      More info here:

                                      I do like the suggestion of rewarding NPC form.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/120132623/nzr-chief-rugby-officer-nigel-cass-denies-all-blacks-xv-will-cheapen-the-jersey

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        More info here:

                                        I do like the suggestion of rewarding NPC form.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/120132623/nzr-chief-rugby-officer-nigel-cass-denies-all-blacks-xv-will-cheapen-the-jersey

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                                        @Bovidae Yeah, is good to see an incentive to play NPC.

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                                          Will hopefully stop a lot of players organising Northern hemisphere gigs after or during npc

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