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All Blacks XV - New second tier team

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  • TimT Offline
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    Tim
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    Eligible tightheads:

    Moli
    Taavao
    Lomax
    Mafileo
    Tokolahi

    Any others?

    Looseheads:

    Moli
    Ross
    Hodgman
    Johnstone
    Numia
    Thwaites

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      Tim
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      Out of that lot I'm going to assume that Moli is in the ABs.

      Taavao
      Lomax

      Ross
      Hodgman

      +1

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        Nogusta
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        This team will capture international status so I hope guys with dual eligibility think long and hard before they sign on!

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        • TimT Offline
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          Tim
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          #19

          Locks

          Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Barrett + 1 in the ABs.

          Contenders:

          Allardice
          Cowley-Tuioti
          IWL
          Dunshea
          Strange
          Dickson

          Maybe Strange to the ABs, leaving IWL, GCT, and Dunshea for the B team. Dickson for fourth lock?

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          • TimT Offline
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            Tim
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            I'll skip loose forwards for now. Probably the toughest decisions there.

            Halfbacks:

            Assume that the three from the WC will stay in the ABs.

            TTT and Hall obvious choices.

            Nock
            Drummond
            Booth
            Fakatava
            Enari

            I'd like to see more of Taumateine.

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            • TimT Offline
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              Tim
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              #21

              1st 5:

              Big question over third AB ten.

              Ioane, Black, and Smith are probably the most prominent this year. Perhaps two of those (Black and Smith) plus a player who covers 10 from another position like Havili, Stevenson, or Perofeta.

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                Tim
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                #22

                Roll on the midfield. Goodhue, ALB, and Laumape in the main squad. Perhaps Ennor too. Not a lot of 12s around.

                Contenders:

                TJ Faiane
                Havili at 12?
                Vince Aso
                Tupaea

                Some players like Nankivel, Walden, Thompson, Tele'a, and Manu haven't shown much or haven't had a chance yet.

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                  Hooker

                  Only player guaranteed of a place is Taylor. Coles doesn't look like the same player, and it may be time to move on. He may also peak at the right time for the ABs. Unknown as of yet. Anyway, Taylor, Coles, and Taukei'aho for my AB picks.

                  Coltman and Aumua for two spots in the B team. Maybe Makalio for the third spot, but they may want someone younger.

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                    Tim
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                    #24

                    Back three is hard to pick with so much talent about.

                    MacKenzie and Havili for AB fullbacks, with Ioane and Reece on the wing? Throw in a last chance for George Bridge, though I really hope not. I could also see them taking Jordie Barrett, though I really don't want to see him on the wing.

                    Contenders:

                    Telea
                    Stevenson
                    Wainui
                    Alaimalo
                    Goosen
                    Leicester Fainga'anuku
                    Will Jordan
                    Perofeta

                    There's also some players with the Sevens squad. Tough to pick.

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                      Tim
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                      #25

                      Any takers to pick a 23?

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                      • KirwanK Offline
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                        Kirwan
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                        #26

                        Kind of would like to see the ABs play the AB XV

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          Kind of would like to see the ABs play the AB XV

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

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                            @Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

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                            Kirwan
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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:

                            @Kirwan they could call it like Probables vs Possibles or summink?

                            Yes, I miss those. Which was my poorly expressed point.

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                              Tim
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                              Can't answer the loose forward without looking at the ABs too. Last year's players were probably the weakest selection in a long time. Only two will be certain picks this year: Cane and Savea, who both prefer openside.

                              Openside:

                              Papalii
                              Bosher
                              Kirifi
                              Christie

                              Blindside:

                              Papalii
                              Robinson
                              Bosher
                              Jacobson
                              Fifita
                              Grace
                              Frizell

                              Number Eight:

                              (Savea)
                              Ioane
                              Sotutu
                              Jacobson
                              Evans
                              Mikaele-Tu'u
                              Douglas

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Can't answer the loose forward without looking at the ABs too. Last year's players were probably the weakest selection in a long time. Only two will be certain picks this year: Cane and Savea, who both prefer openside.

                                Openside:

                                Papalii
                                Bosher
                                Kirifi
                                Christie

                                Blindside:

                                Papalii
                                Robinson
                                Bosher
                                Jacobson
                                Fifita
                                Grace
                                Frizell

                                Number Eight:

                                (Savea)
                                Ioane
                                Sotutu
                                Jacobson
                                Evans
                                Mikaele-Tu'u
                                Douglas

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                                Kirwan
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                                @Tim some bloody good players coming through there.

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                                  @Tim some bloody good players coming through there.

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                                  @Kirwan Yeah, traditional strength of NZ indeed.

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                                    Tim
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                                    #32

                                    Be interesting to see if Jordie Barrett plays at 12.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Locks

                                      Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Barrett + 1 in the ABs.

                                      Contenders:

                                      Allardice
                                      Cowley-Tuioti
                                      IWL
                                      Dunshea
                                      Strange
                                      Dickson

                                      Maybe Strange to the ABs, leaving IWL, GCT, and Dunshea for the B team. Dickson for fourth lock?

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      @Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:

                                      Locks

                                      Hopefully Parkinson is back to full fitness and performs.

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                                        Tim
                                        wrote on last edited by Tim
                                        #34

                                        Okay, time for a guess at a 23.

                                        1 Ross
                                        2 Coltman
                                        3 Taavao
                                        4 IWL
                                        5 Dunshea
                                        6 Jacobson
                                        7 Kirifi
                                        8 Sotutu
                                        9 Hall
                                        10 Black
                                        11 Talea
                                        12 Faiane
                                        13 Aso
                                        14 Stevenson/Bridge
                                        15 Barrett/Havili/Jordan

                                        16 Aumua
                                        17 Hodgman
                                        18 Lomax
                                        19 GCT
                                        20 Boshier
                                        21 TTT
                                        22 Smith
                                        23 Tupaea

                                        Of course, this will change depending non injuries and form in derby matches.

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                                          Bovidae
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                                          More info here:

                                          I do like the suggestion of rewarding NPC form.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/120132623/nzr-chief-rugby-officer-nigel-cass-denies-all-blacks-xv-will-cheapen-the-jersey

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