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ABs vs Kangaroos?

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  • MajorPomM Offline
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    They should just play league. Too many set pieces in rugby which take years of training to master.

    I would expect the Kangaroo's to walk it, but I think NZ would score a few meat pies ...

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      Is it likely this is a dig at WR? Seems like this has come up a few times, kinda like how NRL players publicly mull going to Union when their contracts are up for renegotiation.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        cant see this posted elsewhere, but...

        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/06/all-blacks-v-kangaroos-cross-code-blockbuster-proposed-for-december.html

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        @taniwharugby said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

        cant see this posted elsewhere, but...

        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/06/all-blacks-v-kangaroos-cross-code-blockbuster-proposed-for-december.html

        Oh do just fuck off.

        If the league fluffybunnies want to play us then just give up the experiment and come and play rugby.

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        • A akan004

          This is a bad idea. The problem with hybrid rules is that it can never be perfectly fair and will invariably favour one code more. Imagine if the ABs lost to the Kangaroos in a game where the rules favoured league, we won't hear the end of it. If they do insist on playing this ridiculous game, then it has to be one half under league rules and the other half under union rules (union scrums excluded) like it was done before.

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          @akan004 said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

          This is a bad idea. The problem with hybrid rules is that it can never be perfectly fair and will invariably favour one code more. Imagine if the ABs lost to the Kangaroos in a game where the rules favoured league, we won't hear the end of it. If they do insist on playing this ridiculous game, then it has to be one half under league rules and the other half under union rules (union scrums excluded) like it was done before.

          And those hybrid games were very one-sided for each half, as expected, when the rules were favouring either rugby or RL. Wigan did better than St Helens in the rugby halves.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_the_Codes_(rugby)

          If there are no lineouts and uncontested scrums then it's not rugby so a waste of time.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @akan004 said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

            This is a bad idea. The problem with hybrid rules is that it can never be perfectly fair and will invariably favour one code more. Imagine if the ABs lost to the Kangaroos in a game where the rules favoured league, we won't hear the end of it. If they do insist on playing this ridiculous game, then it has to be one half under league rules and the other half under union rules (union scrums excluded) like it was done before.

            And those hybrid games were very one-sided for each half, as expected, when the rules were favouring either rugby or RL. Wigan did better than St Helens in the rugby halves.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_the_Codes_(rugby)

            If there are no lineouts and uncontested scrums then it's not rugby so a waste of time.

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            @Bovidae I found footage of a Bath v Wigan game that I remember watching back in 96

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Bovidae I found footage of a Bath v Wigan game that I remember watching back in 96

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              @ACT-Crusader I remember watching that game too. Bath were considered an expansive rugby team during that era. Compared to the other English clubs obviously. 😉

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                They were great matches to mull over and watch.

                And then mull over.

                All with adult beverages obviously.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @Bovidae I found footage of a Bath v Wigan game that I remember watching back in 96

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                  @Bovidae I found footage of a Bath v Wigan game that I remember watching back in 96

                  Bath showing all the benefits of a year in professionalism...

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @ACT-Crusader I remember watching that game too. Bath were considered an expansive rugby team during that era. Compared to the other English clubs obviously. 😉

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                    @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                    @ACT-Crusader I remember watching that game too. Bath were considered an expansive rugby team during that era. Compared to the other English clubs obviously. 😉

                    They were a bit of a farce at times but fun to watch and helped break down some of the absurd RL/RU barriers at the time.

                    Yonks ago, I was at a some dinner or lunch event with a Wigan prop who played in both games (Terry O'Connor?). Great bloke IIRC.

                    He said after the return Union game at Bath's ground, any thought that RU was a bunch of fat boys pushing against each other vanished within 5 minutes. Said that even though Bath were holding back and there were uncontested scrums, he had never been so physically exhausted. Added that Wigan were taken aback at how physically tough RU forward play actually was.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @ACT-Crusader I remember watching that game too. Bath were considered an expansive rugby team during that era. Compared to the other English clubs obviously. 😉

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                      @Bovidae that Wigan side ended up having quite a few dual code players - Ofiah, Inga, Paul, Farrell

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @Bovidae that Wigan side ended up having quite a few dual code players - Ofiah, Inga, Paul, Farrell

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                        @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

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                          @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                          @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

                          Yep. Scott Quinnell as well.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @Bovidae that Wigan side ended up having quite a few dual code players - Ofiah, Inga, Paul, Farrell

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                            @Bovidae that Wigan side ended up having quite a few dual code players - Ofiah, Inga, Paul, Farrell

                            Paul positively stank in the 15 Man game. His England career, such as it was, was simply embarrassing.

                            Other went brilliantly - JR & Scott Quinell - but other were so-so. The games are way too different at teh top level, I guess.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

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                              @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                              @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

                              A bit like Leeds Rhino's in the early-2000's. A must-watch when they were playing

                              Kevin Sinfield was way up there with the likes of Carter & co when it came to ability with the oval ball.

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                @Bovidae that Wigan side ended up having quite a few dual code players - Ofiah, Inga, Paul, Farrell

                                Paul positively stank in the 15 Man game. His England career, such as it was, was simply embarrassing.

                                Other went brilliantly - JR & Scott Quinell - but other were so-so. The games are way too different at teh top level, I guess.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                @Bovidae that Wigan side ended up having quite a few dual code players - Ofiah, Inga, Paul, Farrell

                                Paul positively stank in the 15 Man game. His England career, such as it was, was simply embarrassing.

                                I was very surprised when he made the England squad. He was playing okayish for Gloucester, but he never really looked comfortable in Union because I think he didn’t have the ball in his hands enough like when he played league.

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                                  Freak show. Silly idea. Won't bother watching.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                    @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

                                    Yep. Scott Quinnell as well.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                    @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                    @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

                                    Yep. Scott Quinnell as well.

                                    Quinnell returned not went to union

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                                      Freak show. Silly idea. Won't bother watching.

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                                      @sparky said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                      Freak show. Silly idea. Won't bother watching.

                                      Had a rethink. I think it is an absolutely appalling idea. A disgusting, revolting embarrassment. What is wrong with NZR that makes them come up with such a total crock of s**te?

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                                        Great idea, I'd watch. It's harmless fun so I can see why some would shy away...

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                          @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                          @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

                                          Yep. Scott Quinnell as well.

                                          Quinnell returned not went to union

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                          @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

                                          @ACT-Crusader Robinson as well. They were a great team to watch back then.

                                          Yep. Scott Quinnell as well.

                                          Quinnell returned not went to union

                                          Same for Martin Offiah IIRC

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