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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    i worry Jordie is the former rather than the later

    Anyone who can pound over penalties from 50m+, and defend strongly has a future in the backs at international level. I think he'll have other abilities he develops too.

    Don't forget, he turned 23 in Feb. The kid is still super young (same age as Rieko Ioane).

    the difference is Reiko has much more of an impact in his time as an AB than jordie has

    as i said unless he's first choice in a position then the ability to knock it over from 50m becomes mute and he's failed to take a claim on a single position

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    @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    the difference is Reiko has much more of an impact in his time as an AB than jordie has

    I can remember one particularly negative impact from Jordie.

    Edit: @crucial. Snap

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      I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

      Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

      I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

        Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

        I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

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        @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

        Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

        I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

        How old is TTT?

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

          Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

          I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

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          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

          Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

          I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

          They tried that with TTT then Weber had a spell of form for the Chiefs, TTT got no gametime and went backwards.
          Jonathon Taumateine is another that got lost in the logjam.
          Unless a franchise commits to developing a youngster the AB coaches have their work cut out.

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

            Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

            I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

            How old is TTT?

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            @Hooroo 25

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            • HoorooH Hooroo

              @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

              Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

              I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

              How old is TTT?

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              @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              I thing the AB selectors need to have quite a strong eye on who is going to play halfback for us at the next World Cup.

              Aaron Smith will be an old man, TJ, Weber and Hall won't be a lot younger (all in their late 20s now).

              I'd be inclined to take a punt on someone younger as the third option.

              How old is TTT?

              Turned 25 in March.

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                i worry Jordie is the former rather than the later

                Anyone who can pound over penalties from 50m+, and defend strongly has a future in the backs at international level. I think he'll have other abilities he develops too.

                Don't forget, he turned 23 in Feb. The kid is still super young (same age as Rieko Ioane).

                Is Reiko only 23?????

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                @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                i worry Jordie is the former rather than the later

                Anyone who can pound over penalties from 50m+, and defend strongly has a future in the backs at international level. I think he'll have other abilities he develops too.

                Don't forget, he turned 23 in Feb. The kid is still super young (same age as Rieko Ioane).

                Is Reiko only 23?????

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Ioane

                according to Wikipedia - a month younger than JB

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  i worry Jordie is the former rather than the later

                  Anyone who can pound over penalties from 50m+, and defend strongly has a future in the backs at international level. I think he'll have other abilities he develops too.

                  Don't forget, he turned 23 in Feb. The kid is still super young (same age as Rieko Ioane).

                  Is Reiko only 23?????

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Ioane

                  according to Wikipedia - a month younger than JB

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                  @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  i worry Jordie is the former rather than the later

                  Anyone who can pound over penalties from 50m+, and defend strongly has a future in the backs at international level. I think he'll have other abilities he develops too.

                  Don't forget, he turned 23 in Feb. The kid is still super young (same age as Rieko Ioane).

                  Is Reiko only 23?????

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Ioane

                  according to Wikipedia - a month younger than JB

                  But he debuted about a decade ago......

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    i worry Jordie is the former rather than the later

                    Anyone who can pound over penalties from 50m+, and defend strongly has a future in the backs at international level. I think he'll have other abilities he develops too.

                    Don't forget, he turned 23 in Feb. The kid is still super young (same age as Rieko Ioane).

                    Is Reiko only 23?????

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Ioane

                    according to Wikipedia - a month younger than JB

                    But he debuted about a decade ago......

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                    @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Hooroo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Kiwiwomble said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    i worry Jordie is the former rather than the later

                    Anyone who can pound over penalties from 50m+, and defend strongly has a future in the backs at international level. I think he'll have other abilities he develops too.

                    Don't forget, he turned 23 in Feb. The kid is still super young (same age as Rieko Ioane).

                    Is Reiko only 23?????

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Ioane

                    according to Wikipedia - a month younger than JB

                    But he debuted about a decade ago......

                    feels like it. He was 19 on debut against Italy in 2016

                    https://www.allblacks.com/playerprofiles/rieko-ioane/

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                      Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                      I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder.

                      If there are going to be 4 BC tests, Foster (and Rennie for that matter) will have the opportunity to try different combinations across the series. But I'm not expecting a huge number of newbies this season.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                        I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder.

                        If there are going to be 4 BC tests, Foster (and Rennie for that matter) will have the opportunity to try different combinations across the series. But I'm not expecting a huge number of newbies this season.

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                        @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                        I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder..

                        Starting winger, moves to 13 for the last 20mins when Caleb subs on

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                          I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder..

                          Starting winger, moves to 13 for the last 20mins when Caleb subs on

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                          @Duluth said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                          I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder..

                          Starting winger, moves to 13 for the last 20mins when Caleb subs on

                          Ralph? THat guy's so fit...

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @Duluth said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                            I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder..

                            Starting winger, moves to 13 for the last 20mins when Caleb subs on

                            Ralph? THat guy's so fit...

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                            @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Duluth said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                            I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder..

                            Starting winger, moves to 13 for the last 20mins when Caleb subs on

                            Ralph? THat guy's so fit...

                            104 games in a row, he's a fucking machine

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                              Beauden Barrett at 1st five and Will Jordan at fullback ???

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                                Mo'unga at first five, BB at 15, Havili on the bench.

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                                  I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder..

                                  Starting winger, moves to 13 for the last 20mins when Caleb subs on

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                                  @Duluth said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Question: Would the ABs be stronger with Rieko at centre or on the left wing?

                                  I'd be starting him in the no.11 jersey but with his increasing ability to play at centre that changes the balance of the back reserves as you wouldn't need to carry another specialist midfielder..

                                  Starting winger, moves to 13 for the last 20mins when Caleb subs on

                                  Would prefer to see him coming off the bench. Going from wing to centre in a game is a big defensive adjustment to make.

                                  Smith
                                  Barrett
                                  Clarke
                                  ALB
                                  Goodhue
                                  Telea
                                  Havili

                                  Perenara
                                  Mounga
                                  Ioane

                                  About perfect for mine. Mix and match the starters for different opponents.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Mo'unga at first five, BB at 15, Havili on the bench.

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                                    @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    Mo'unga at first five, BB at 15, Havili on the bench.

                                    Who would your other non-halfback back be on the bench?

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                                      Mo'unga at first five, BB at 15, Havili on the bench.

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                                      @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Mo'unga at first five, BB at 15, Havili on the bench.

                                      Goodhue and Enmore.in the midfield. Bridge and Reece the wings

                                      @ACT-Crusader someone is trying to steal your shtick

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                                        You guys are dreaming, if BB is playing 10, fullback will be either DMac or Jordie.

                                        Not saying that’s what I want, but that’s what’ll happen.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Mo'unga at first five, BB at 15, Havili on the bench.

                                          Who would your other non-halfback back be on the bench?

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Mo'unga at first five, BB at 15, Havili on the bench.

                                          Who would your other non-halfback back be on the bench?

                                          Depends on the starters. Say Reece and Telea are the starting wingers, and Goodhue and ALB the starting midfielders, then you probably take a fast wing/centre on the bench if Havili can already cover 10/12/15. So then probably Rieko. But if Rieko and Goodhue start, then maybe Ennor on the bench (assuming he's faster than ALB).

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