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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @gt12 Even without looking at the stats, George was way ahead on points compared to the other wings in that game - on my card anyway.

    That doesn't necessarily mean you get a line drawn through your name if you're the other guys, but it's a significant blow to their campaigns to be outplayed by the incumbent they're trying to unseat.

    I'm biased, but I've got Will Jordan at the head of the new caps queue to join the outside backs - so the question is how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

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    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

    all of them. and all of them

    let's make this exciting, and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    baby blacks y'all!

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    • gt12G gt12

      @Chris-B

      By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

      3 runs, 1 metre
      1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
      1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

      Similarly Reece had:

      5 runs, 6 metres
      1 defender beaten, 1 offload
      2 tackles made, 3 missed

      For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

      Bridge:

      9 runs, 49 metres,
      1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
      2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

      Telea:

      5 runs, 62 metres
      2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
      9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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      @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      3 runs, 1 metre
      1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten

      Does not compute! Was he going backwards for his clean break?

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      • gt12G gt12

        @Chris-B

        By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

        3 runs, 1 metre
        1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
        1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

        Similarly Reece had:

        5 runs, 6 metres
        1 defender beaten, 1 offload
        2 tackles made, 3 missed

        For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

        Bridge:

        9 runs, 49 metres,
        1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
        2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

        Telea:

        5 runs, 62 metres
        2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
        9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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        @gt12 What about errors? A lot of the criticism of Talea has been about his failure to catch the high kicks.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

          all of them. and all of them

          let's make this exciting, and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

          baby blacks y'all!

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          @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

          all of them. and all of them

          let's make this exciting, and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

          baby blacks y'all!

          Steve?

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

            He's nearly 2 years older than Rieko was when he debuted. If the Olympics go ahead next year than Clarke couldn't be involved with the ABs until 2022.

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            @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            If the Olympics go ahead next year than Clarke couldn't be involved with the ABs until 2022.

            you'd think they will be re-looking at those guys had previously committed, some might be closer to the ABs, while others might be further form the 7s than they were previously....

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              If the Olympics go ahead next year than Clarke couldn't be involved with the ABs until 2022.

              you'd think they will be re-looking at those guys had previously committed, some might be closer to the ABs, while others might be further form the 7s than they were previously....

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              @taniwharugby Clarke is keen to go based on a quote only a week ago.

              “I want to go to Tokyo,” he says. “It’s a big goal, especially while I’m still young. But we’ll just see how this season pans out. The ultimate goal is always the black jersey. If there’s a shot of that it would be something real cool to pursue. But the Olympics is once in a lifetime as well.”
              
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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                George was way ahead on points compared to the other wings in that game - on my card anyway

                alt text

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                @mariner4life Didn't they have the game on in Cairns?

                Crocodile bite through the legs of the TV tower or did it just sink into the swamp?

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @mariner4life Didn't they have the game on in Cairns?

                  Crocodile bite through the legs of the TV tower or did it just sink into the swamp?

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                  @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @mariner4life Didn't they have the game on in Cairns?

                  Crocodile bite through the legs of the TV tower or did it just sink into the swamp?

                  i live in Cairns, not the everglades

                  But no, 5pm is not ideal, busy cooking dinner. Extended highlights only for me this week.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @mariner4life Didn't they have the game on in Cairns?

                    Crocodile bite through the legs of the TV tower or did it just sink into the swamp?

                    i live in Cairns, not the everglades

                    But no, 5pm is not ideal, busy cooking dinner. Extended highlights only for me this week.

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                    @mariner4life You'll have seen a fair bit of George's impressive game in those highlights then! 🙂

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @mariner4life You'll have seen a fair bit of George's impressive game in those highlights then! 🙂

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                      @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @mariner4life You'll have seen a fair bit of George's impressive game in those highlights then! 🙂

                      no

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @mariner4life You'll have seen a fair bit of George's impressive game in those highlights then! 🙂

                        no

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                        @mariner4life Phil Kearns doing the editing for the Australian highlights package, is he?

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @Chris-B

                          By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

                          3 runs, 1 metre
                          1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
                          1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

                          Similarly Reece had:

                          5 runs, 6 metres
                          1 defender beaten, 1 offload
                          2 tackles made, 3 missed

                          For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

                          Bridge:

                          9 runs, 49 metres,
                          1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
                          2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

                          Telea:

                          5 runs, 62 metres
                          2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
                          9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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                          @gt12 where do those stats come from?

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            Reiko needs to be left at centre now. He has made the move a bit earlier than most wingers but now he has, he needs to develop the experience there. Moving him around again will be a backward step.

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                            @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Reiko needs to be left at centre now. He has made the move a bit earlier than most wingers but now he has, he needs to develop the experience there. Moving him around again will be a backward step.

                            So who does he replace in the midfield?

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                              @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Reiko needs to be left at centre now. He has made the move a bit earlier than most wingers but now he has, he needs to develop the experience there. Moving him around again will be a backward step.

                              So who does he replace in the midfield?

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                              @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Reiko needs to be left at centre now. He has made the move a bit earlier than most wingers but now he has, he needs to develop the experience there. Moving him around again will be a backward step.

                              So who does he replace in the midfield?

                              Crotty...

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @taniwharugby Clarke is keen to go based on a quote only a week ago.

                                “I want to go to Tokyo,” he says. “It’s a big goal, especially while I’m still young. But we’ll just see how this season pans out. The ultimate goal is always the black jersey. If there’s a shot of that it would be something real cool to pursue. But the Olympics is once in a lifetime as well.”
                                
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                                @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @taniwharugby Clarke is keen to go based on a quote only a week ago.

                                “I want to go to Tokyo,” he says. “It’s a big goal, especially while I’m still young. But we’ll just see how this season pans out. The ultimate goal is always the black jersey. If there’s a shot of that it would be something real cool to pursue. **But the Olympics is once in a lifetime as well**.”
                                

                                Does he realise the olympics are every 4 years?

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                                  I'm sure he thinks going to the Olympics at 21/22 years old would be preferable, and then he focuses on playing XVs.

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                                  • J junior

                                    @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    Reiko needs to be left at centre now. He has made the move a bit earlier than most wingers but now he has, he needs to develop the experience there. Moving him around again will be a backward step.

                                    So who does he replace in the midfield?

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                                    @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    Reiko needs to be left at centre now. He has made the move a bit earlier than most wingers but now he has, he needs to develop the experience there. Moving him around again will be a backward step.

                                    So who does he replace in the midfield?

                                    There’s room for him

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Word. Clarke had to be in, he is a real weapon with all the extra skills.

                                      Needs a touch more experience and he looks like he could be Bridge with a bit more power.

                                      Clarke is young, but needs to get himself more involved if the ball isn't going his way.

                                      how many games had our starting wingers in a RWC semi final played? combined? If you are good enough...

                                      I'm pretty over the "safe" wing spot. I think the trench warfare of test rugby needs a couple of game breakers out wide.

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                                      @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Word. Clarke had to be in, he is a real weapon with all the extra skills.

                                      Needs a touch more experience and he looks like he could be Bridge with a bit more power.

                                      Clarke is young, but needs to get himself more involved if the ball isn't going his way.

                                      how many games had our starting wingers in a RWC semi final played? combined? If you are good enough...

                                      I'm pretty over the "safe" wing spot. I think the trench warfare of test rugby needs a couple of game breakers out wide.

                                      Agree with this. Look at the Pom and Safe wings at the 2019 RWC and every one of them had that "extra" ability to beat a man, which can be a crucial outlet in a tight test match. Look at the value the Poms got out of their wings in that semi as compared to the 3/5 of fuck all we got from ours. It was almost like they'd swapped jerseys before the match. Similarly, the Saffa wings were absolutely terrific in the final, especially late on when defenders are fatigues and there to be beaten by someone capable of using a bit of footwork.

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                                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                        @gt12 @Chris-B 11 mths out from RWC I was told Bridge was a certainty.

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                                        @dogmeat said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @gt12 @Chris-B 11 mths out from RWC I was told Bridge was a certainty.

                                        A certainty for the squad or a certainty to playing in a RWC knockout match ahead of the world's best left wing?

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                                          @dogmeat said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @gt12 @Chris-B 11 mths out from RWC I was told Bridge was a certainty.

                                          A certainty for the squad or a certainty to playing in a RWC knockout match ahead of the world's best left wing?

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                                          @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @dogmeat said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @gt12 @Chris-B 11 mths out from RWC I was told Bridge was a certainty.

                                          A certainty for the squad or a certainty to playing in a RWC knockout match ahead of the world's best left wing?

                                          Iirc he was being touted as a fullback?

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