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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @gt12 where do those stats come from?

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    @taniwharugby

    ESPN

    @Bones

    Yeah, I don't quite get how Clarke gets so few metres but has a clean break. They're clearly a bit dodgy.

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      @taniwharugby

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      @Bones

      Yeah, I don't quite get how Clarke gets so few metres but has a clean break. They're clearly a bit dodgy.

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      @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @taniwharugby

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      @Bones

      Yeah, I don't quite get how Clarke gets so few metres but has a clean break. They're clearly a bit dodgy.

      stats courtesy of @Chris-B

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      • BonesB Bones

        @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @dogmeat said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @gt12 @Chris-B 11 mths out from RWC I was told Bridge was a certainty.

        A certainty for the squad or a certainty to playing in a RWC knockout match ahead of the world's best left wing?

        Iirc he was being touted as a fullback?

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        @Bones

        I think he was touted as the NMS/Smith FB/wing replacement/addition

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        • TimT Tim

          Is there a single test match quality 12 in NZ at the moment? All of them have major deficiencies. ALB would have been my 13, but has been well down on form. Rieko has been hot shit on attack, but is still learning some of the defence aspects at 13.

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          @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Is there a single test match quality 12 in NZ at the moment? All of them have major deficiencies. ALB would have been my 13, but has been well down on form. Rieko has been hot shit on attack, but is still learning some of the defence aspects at 13.

          Hopefully the AB coaches can see that Goodhue is clearly wasted at 12. ALB will be fine in black.

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            @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            Is there a single test match quality 12 in NZ at the moment? All of them have major deficiencies. ALB would have been my 13, but has been well down on form. Rieko has been hot shit on attack, but is still learning some of the defence aspects at 13.

            Hopefully the AB coaches can see that Goodhue is clearly wasted at 12. ALB will be fine in black.

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            @Bones ALB at 12 just makes for another crappy, low physicality midfield. Not as bad as some in the past, but pretty average too.

            I fear that we are going to get the same high workrate, "high skill" team that would get smashed back behind the advantage line while trying to go extra wide early.

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              The weekend was the first time I really started to think Rieko might evolve into a bloody good centre. Need to watch him more on defence, but I thought he showed some nice touches ball in hand (passing to set up others) that I hadn't really seen from him before. Good to see him evolve

              I wonder if a Goodhue/Reiko partnership could develop? With Goodhue the glue that allows the dynamic players to flourish.

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              • TimT Tim

                @Bones ALB at 12 just makes for another crappy, low physicality midfield. Not as bad as some in the past, but pretty average too.

                I fear that we are going to get the same high workrate, "high skill" team that would get smashed back behind the advantage line while trying to go extra wide early.

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                @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Bones ALB at 12 just makes for another crappy low physicality midfield. Not as bad as some in the past, but pretty average too.

                Definitely not low physicality. Not exactly Tuilagi but not many are.

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                  We don't have a Nonu available. Laumape isn't that either as his distribution is more like Nonu c2003.

                  You need to have all 3 on the field so that's (11) Ioane, (12) ALB and (13) Goodhue.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Bones ALB at 12 just makes for another crappy low physicality midfield. Not as bad as some in the past, but pretty average too.

                    Definitely not low physicality. Not exactly Tuilagi but not many are.

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                    @Bones ALB/Goodhue, ALB/Ioane, Goodhue/Ioane, and Goodhue/ALB all lack a dominant midfield ball carrier, and rely on a player who looks to take the outside break.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @taniwharugby Clarke is keen to go based on a quote only a week ago.

                      “I want to go to Tokyo,” he says. “It’s a big goal, especially while I’m still young. But we’ll just see how this season pans out. The ultimate goal is always the black jersey. If there’s a shot of that it would be something real cool to pursue. But the Olympics is once in a lifetime as well.”
                      
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                      @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @taniwharugby Clarke is keen to go based on a quote only a week ago.

                      “I want to go to Tokyo,” he says. “It’s a big goal, especially while I’m still young. But we’ll just see how this season pans out. The ultimate goal is always the black jersey. If there’s a shot of that it would be something real cool to pursue. But the Olympics is once in a lifetime as well.”
                      

                      The way things are going, there ain't going to be any Olympics next in 2021

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                        Also, fuck sevens. Play real rugby.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Bones ALB/Goodhue, ALB/Ioane, Goodhue/Ioane, and Goodhue/ALB all lack a dominant midfield ball carrier, and rely on a player who looks to take the outside break.

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                          @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bones ALB/Goodhue, ALB/Ioane, Goodhue/Ioane, and Goodhue/ALB all lack a dominant midfield ball carrier, and rely on a player who looks to take the outside break.

                          I guess you missed the ALB/Crotty midfield that was such a success a couple of years ago. Through the middle.

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                            @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @taniwharugby Clarke is keen to go based on a quote only a week ago.

                            “I want to go to Tokyo,” he says. “It’s a big goal, especially while I’m still young. But we’ll just see how this season pans out. The ultimate goal is always the black jersey. If there’s a shot of that it would be something real cool to pursue. But the Olympics is once in a lifetime as well.”
                            

                            The way things are going, there ain't going to be any Olympics next in 2021

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                            @voodoo Then Clarke's decision will be made for him.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Bones ALB/Goodhue, ALB/Ioane, Goodhue/Ioane, and Goodhue/ALB all lack a dominant midfield ball carrier, and rely on a player who looks to take the outside break.

                              I guess you missed the ALB/Crotty midfield that was such a success a couple of years ago. Through the middle.

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                              @Bones We had a big success? Was that when we lost to Ireland?

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                We don't have a Nonu available. Laumape isn't that either as his distribution is more like Nonu c2003.

                                You need to have all 3 on the field so that's (11) Ioane, (12) ALB and (13) Goodhue.

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                                @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                We don't have a Nonu available. Laumape isn't that either as his distribution is more like Nonu c2003.

                                You need to have all 3 on the field so that's (11) Ioane, (12) ALB and (13) Goodhue.

                                How did Nonu turn out? Nani may end up being another Sam Tuitupou, or maybe he'll expand his game like Ma'a. He does bring toughness and the ability to break the line

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @Bones We had a big success? Was that when we lost to Ireland?

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                                  @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Bones We had a big success? Was that when we lost to Ireland?

                                  I'm sure it was their big ball running midfield that tore us apart.

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                                    Foster's starting forwards will probably be the following, and it will be a big wet turd. Then we'll thrash Australia and there will be one hundred posts about how good they are.

                                    1. Moody
                                    2. Taylor
                                    3. Laulala
                                    4. Whitelock
                                    5. Barrett
                                    6. Frizell
                                    7. Cane
                                    8. Savea
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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      We don't have a Nonu available. Laumape isn't that either as his distribution is more like Nonu c2003.

                                      You need to have all 3 on the field so that's (11) Ioane, (12) ALB and (13) Goodhue.

                                      How did Nonu turn out? Nani may end up being another Sam Tuitupou, or maybe he'll expand his game like Ma'a. He does bring toughness and the ability to break the line

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                                      @canefan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Nani may end up being another Sam Tuitupou

                                      If only he was that good.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Bones We had a big success? Was that when we lost to Ireland?

                                        I'm sure it was their big ball running midfield that tore us apart.

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                                        @Bones I think it was that our forwards were weak and we lacked options in the backs other than go wide, go early. We were shit and playing flaky rugby.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @Bones ALB/Goodhue, ALB/Ioane, Goodhue/Ioane, and Goodhue/ALB all lack a dominant midfield ball carrier, and rely on a player who looks to take the outside break.

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                                          @Tim

                                          I think when he is on form, ALB can do very well in traffic and can be good at 12. He's a great offloader. I do think he's a bit better at 13, but right now it's hard to judge because he's just terribly out of form.

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