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'Super Rugby' 2021

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  • barbarianB barbarian

    NZ Rugby wants new professional comp from 2021 with 8-10 teams involved.

    Hope for five Kiwi teams, a Pasifika team and “working with Rugby Australia to seek expressions of interest from their current Super clubs and other interested parties to join the competition.”

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    @barbarian said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

    NZ Rugby wants new professional comp from 2021 with 8-10 teams involved.

    Hope for five Kiwi teams, a Pasifika team and “working with Rugby Australia to seek expressions of interest from their current Super clubs and other interested parties to join the competition.”

    So 4 Aussie teams, 5 kiwi teams and one team that will be executed on the field every single weekend

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    • HoorooH Hooroo

      @barbarian said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

      NZ Rugby wants new professional comp from 2021 with 8-10 teams involved.

      Hope for five Kiwi teams, a Pasifika team and “working with Rugby Australia to seek expressions of interest from their current Super clubs and other interested parties to join the competition.”

      So 4 Aussie teams, 5 kiwi teams and one team that will be executed on the field every single weekend

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      @Hooroo said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

      @barbarian said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

      NZ Rugby wants new professional comp from 2021 with 8-10 teams involved.

      Hope for five Kiwi teams, a Pasifika team and “working with Rugby Australia to seek expressions of interest from their current Super clubs and other interested parties to join the competition.”

      So 4 Aussie teams, 5 kiwi teams and one team that will be executed on the field every single weekend

      i assumed the rebels were included int he 4 aussie teams......

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        Very ambiguous. 🙂

        There needs to be an even number of teams to avoid byes.

        More info:
        https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-competition-future-feature-of-aratipu-report/

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          https://twitter.com/JamiePandaram/status/1283966411597967362

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          • barbarianB barbarian

            https://twitter.com/JamiePandaram/status/1283966411597967362

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            Yeah fuck off Panda. You were one of the gutter trash undermining the pre-covid game in the end.

            Go back to boxing, you twat. It is what you actually love.

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @Hooroo said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

              @barbarian said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

              NZ Rugby wants new professional comp from 2021 with 8-10 teams involved.

              Hope for five Kiwi teams, a Pasifika team and “working with Rugby Australia to seek expressions of interest from their current Super clubs and other interested parties to join the competition.”

              So 4 Aussie teams, 5 kiwi teams and one team that will be executed on the field every single weekend

              i assumed the rebels were included int he 4 aussie teams......

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              @Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

              i assumed the rebels were included int he 4 aussie teams......

              Can you imagine the screeching if the Force get dumped again? Wow.

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              • NTAN NTA

                @Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                i assumed the rebels were included int he 4 aussie teams......

                Can you imagine the screeching if the Force get dumped again? Wow.

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                @NTA said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                @Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                i assumed the rebels were included int he 4 aussie teams......

                Can you imagine the screeching if the Force get dumped again? Wow.

                I'd pay to see that.

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                • NTAN NTA

                  Yeah fuck off Panda. You were one of the gutter trash undermining the pre-covid game in the end.

                  Go back to boxing, you twat. It is what you actually love.

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                  @NTA said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  Yeah fuck off Panda. You were one of the gutter trash undermining the pre-covid game in the end.

                  I'm no fan of his, but he's right. It's an aggressive move from NZRU to take ownership of the TT model.

                  They are asking RA and Aussie clubs to come and knock on their door, begging bowl in hand.

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    Yeah fuck off Panda. You were one of the gutter trash undermining the pre-covid game in the end.

                    Go back to boxing, you twat. It is what you actually love.

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                    @NTA said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                    Yeah fuck off Panda. You were one of the gutter trash undermining the pre-covid game in the end.

                    Go back to boxing, you twat. It is what you actually love.

                    What he knows about rugby would've fitted in Twitter's original character limit.

                    The Oz media really has its panties in a bunch regarding NZR not being the benevolent Australian rugby association it's clearly meant to be.

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                      In addition, despite the 'fuck you SANZAAR' headlines in the Herald, this comp is for 2021 - not starting 2021, and it seems a stop gap in a CV19 world. SO I think, long term, the SANZAAR thing may be worked out, but next year - no way we will be able to fly around like in normal SR.

                      EDIT: I could be talking arse, tho, 'establishing' means starting from 2021? Dunno

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                      • M Machpants

                        In addition, despite the 'fuck you SANZAAR' headlines in the Herald, this comp is for 2021 - not starting 2021, and it seems a stop gap in a CV19 world. SO I think, long term, the SANZAAR thing may be worked out, but next year - no way we will be able to fly around like in normal SR.

                        EDIT: I could be talking arse, tho, 'establishing' means starting from 2021? Dunno

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                        @Machpants

                        Yip I don’t think it’s a stopgap. It requires Aussie rugby to swallow its pride though which is a major hurdle. But ausssie rugby would be stronger imo with the reds, the waratahs and one other Aussie team, properly run and funded.

                        If Aussie says no thanks, we see if nz rugby happy with a 6 team comp. in any case, I think it’s better to be rid of the SA sides.

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                          @Machpants

                          Yip I don’t think it’s a stopgap. It requires Aussie rugby to swallow its pride though which is a major hurdle. But ausssie rugby would be stronger imo with the reds, the waratahs and one other Aussie team, properly run and funded.

                          If Aussie says no thanks, we see if nz rugby happy with a 6 team comp. in any case, I think it’s better to be rid of the SA sides.

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                          @Billy-Tell it's not really about swallowing our pride. You are basically asking us to abandon any hope of every having a rugby presence in a particular state. Is that pride?

                          Given NZ are being so belligerent i wouldn't be particularly upset if we just didn't participate.

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                            Problem is that rugby is so weak in Australia that having a team in each state just leads to Aussie teams getting thrashed by nz ones. Whether home or away, but especially away.

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                              @Billy-Tell it's not really about swallowing our pride. You are basically asking us to abandon any hope of every having a rugby presence in a particular state. Is that pride?

                              Given NZ are being so belligerent i wouldn't be particularly upset if we just didn't participate.

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                              @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              @Billy-Tell it's not really about swallowing our pride. You are basically asking us to abandon any hope of every having a rugby presence in a particular state. Is that pride?

                              Given NZ are being so belligerent i wouldn't be particularly upset if we just didn't participate.

                              Did you actually read what was said?

                              added the Board hadn't settled on what the ideal number of teams in the new competition would be but hoped to have between eight and ten teams involved
                              
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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                @Billy-Tell it's not really about swallowing our pride. You are basically asking us to abandon any hope of every having a rugby presence in a particular state. Is that pride?

                                Given NZ are being so belligerent i wouldn't be particularly upset if we just didn't participate.

                                Did you actually read what was said?

                                added the Board hadn't settled on what the ideal number of teams in the new competition would be but hoped to have between eight and ten teams involved
                                
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                                @KiwiMurph 5 NZ + 1 pacifika leaves 4 spots max...

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                                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                  Problem is that rugby is so weak in Australia that having a team in each state just leads to Aussie teams getting thrashed by nz ones. Whether home or away, but especially away.

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                                  @Billy-Tell Australia won the comp twice with 5 teams.

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                                    @KiwiMurph 5 NZ + 1 pacifika leaves 4 spots max...

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                                    @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                    @KiwiMurph 5 NZ + 1 pacifika leaves 4 spots max...

                                    max?

                                    They've said they haven't settled on the ideal number of teams but hoped to have between 8 and 10.

                                    That doesn't rule out 11.

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                                      @KiwiMurph 5 NZ + 1 pacifika leaves 4 spots max...

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                                      @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                      @KiwiMurph 5 NZ + 1 pacifika leaves 4 spots max...

                                      Perfect. Perth adds complexity and cost for very little benefit

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @KiwiMurph 5 NZ + 1 pacifika leaves 4 spots max...

                                        Perfect. Perth adds complexity and cost for very little benefit

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                                        @mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @KiwiMurph 5 NZ + 1 pacifika leaves 4 spots max...

                                        Perfect. Perth adds complexity and cost for very little benefit

                                        But it may actually be no cost at all. In fact it might actually be too lucrative for them to turn down. If Twiggy funds the Force out of his own pocket, it gives RA/NZRU more content to sell to broadcasters at a better time for SA/NH.

                                        So it comes down to the integrity of the comp (as the Force will struggle) versus the need for cash. And at the moment you'd think the unions would be sorely tempted to chase the moolah.

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                                          i dont think we can talk about the Force being excluded on performance when the rebels are still in the mix, i feel its either the three traditionally stronger teams (red tahs and brumbies) or all five

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