AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

ravens88

Nonu is on another stratosphere to Laumape

Laumape is a very good player
Nonu is an all time great player

Nonu is on the Mount Rushmore of ABs in the Professional Era along the likes of Carter and McCaw

ACT Crusader

@Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

@BerniesCorner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

Laumape has done enough to deserve a chance at 12. Who says he can't further develop his passing and kicking skills in an AB enviroment. Thats the great thing about rugby everyone's different.

His kicking is fine, even his passing us fine - it's pulling all his skills together at once and still keeping his vision plus developing a bit more awareness that is the goal here.

As I pointed out elsewhere, Nonu was a lot younger than 27 when he started his "journey".

So he can do it I reckon, just needs to do it quick.

Edit: I reckon Nonu prolly received a heck of a lot more dusruspict too.

Yeah it’s not so much that he doesn’t have those skills, my concern is the decision making and nous. He’s shown nice kicks, his cut out pass is nice.

antipodean

@ravens88 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

@antipodean

Nonu is on another stratosphere to Laumape

Laumape is a very SR good player
Nonu is an all time great Test player

That's the difference and it's because Nonu finished his career without a weakness to his game. His kicking was brilliant, there wasn't a better passer on the run and he was a threat carrying the ball.

Laumape has the physical attributes, he just needs to show the skill and decision making.

Nonu is on the Mount Rushmore of ABs in the Professional Era along the likes of Carter and McCaw

Agreed.

sparky

@ravens88 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

@antipodean

Nonu is on another stratosphere to Laumape

Laumape is a very good player
Nonu is an all time great player

Nonu is on the Mount Rushmore of ABs in the Professional Era along the likes of Carter and McCaw

Spot on.

BerniesCorner

Ok time to manage the PTSD, fullback moves to 13.

That makes it.

1
2 D Coles
3
4 S Whitelock
5 P Tuipulotu
6 L Boshier
7 A Savea
8 H Sotutu
9 A Smith
11
10 R Mounga
12
13 B Barrett
14 C Clarke
15 J Barrett

mariner4life

@BerniesCorner stop drinking

kiwiinmelb

@Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

@BerniesCorner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

Laumape has done enough to deserve a chance at 12. Who says he can't further develop his passing and kicking skills in an AB enviroment. Thats the great thing about rugby everyone's different.

His kicking is fine, even his passing us fine - it's pulling all his skills together at once and still keeping his vision plus developing a bit more awareness that is the goal here.

As I pointed out elsewhere, Nonu was a lot younger than 27 when he started his "journey".

So he can do it I reckon, just needs to do it quick.

Edit: I reckon Nonu prolly received a heck of a lot more dusruspict too.

The funny thing with Nonu now being looked at as a great ,

He got the gig at 12 in the first place because the cupboard was bare ,

Mauger and McAlister had gone , it was him or nothing pretty much at the time ,

if they had stayed , maybe it would never have happened

sparky

1 Moody
2 Aumua
3 Ofa T
4 Whitelock
5 Tuipulotu
6 Frizell
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 A. Smith
10 Mo'unga
11.C.Clarke
12 ALB
13 R. Ioane
14 Reece
15 J. Barrett
16 Taylor
17. Hodgman
18. Laulala
19. Parkinson
20. Sotutu
21. TJP
22. B. Barrett
23 W. Jordan

Bovidae

This was in yesterday's paper. Knowler ignoring Rieko. WTF?

Paul Cully’s All Blacks: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Dane Coles, Ayden Johnstone, Tyrel Lomax, Pari Pari Parkinson, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, Jordie Barrett.

Marc Hinton’s All Blacks: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (c), Ardie Savea, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Codie Taylor, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Mitchell Dunshea, Shannon Frizell, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.

Richard Knowler’s All Blacks: Will Jordan, Mark Telea, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Ardie Savea, Lachlan Boshier, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock (c), Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Dane Coles, Alex Hodgman, Tyrel Lomax, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Beauden Barrett.

Machpants

Taking into account fitness today

Moody

Taylor

Ofa

Whitelock

Tuipulotu

Frizell

Cane

Savea

Smith

Mo'unga

Clarke

ALB

Ioane

Jordan

J. Barrett

Aumua

Hodgman

Laulala

Parkinson

MMT

TJP

B. Barrett

Bridge

nzzp

@Machpants looks pretty good, close to what is likely

Bovidae

Is everyone forgetting about Tu'inukuafe? I know he has been injured but he is odds on to start at LH for the NI team, and if he returns to fitness and form would be a good option from the bench.

kiwiinmelb

I’m unsure about reiko in the midfield at international level ,

But I would still really like to see what it looks like

nzzp

@Bovidae hasn't played much this year, and hasn't shown much form I don't think. LIke BB - a high ceiling, but not at that level at the moment

Bovidae

@kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

I’m unsure about reiko in the midfield at international level ,

But I would still really like to see what it looks like

If Laumape is out for a while there is a good chance Rieko will now be at centre in the NI vs SI game. His combination with ALB in that game will be interesting to watch, thinking ahead to the ABs.

DMX

1 Moody
2 Coles
3 Ofa T
4 Whitelock
5 Tuipulotu
6 Frizell
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 A. Smith
10 Mo'unga
11. Bridge
12 ALB
13 Goodhue
14 Reece
15 B. Barrett
16 Taylor
17. Hodgman
18. Laulala
19. Parkinson
20. Sotutu
21. TJP
22. J.Barrett
23 R. Iaone

Not a whole lot different from World Cup, notable that Ardie must be in the side was tempted to have him at 7 and Cane at 6 but they can do that when Sotutu comes on. Mounga is the best 10 in NZ and then daylight. BB probably has to play himself out of the 15 jersey.

ACT Crusader

After last night....

1 K. Tu’inukuafe
2 D. Coles
3 O. Tu’ungafasi
4 P. Tuipulotu
5 M. Dunshea
6 S. Frizell
7 S. Cane
8 A. Savea
9 A. Smith
10 T. Sader
11 R. Ioane
12 N. Laumape
13 A. Lienart-Brown
14 J. Barrett
15 B. Barrett

BerniesCorner

ACT agree. It just has to be a 2 Barrett backline

Crucial

Haven’t read the last few pages but has anyone commented on how slow Jordie is to turn? Was like sick Jonah with a brick tied to his ankles.

voodoo

@Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

This was in yesterday's paper. Knowler ignoring Rieko. WTF?

Paul Cully’s All Blacks: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Dane Coles, Ayden Johnstone, Tyrel Lomax, Pari Pari Parkinson, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, Jordie Barrett.

Marc Hinton’s All Blacks: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Sam Cane (c), Ardie Savea, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Codie Taylor, Aidan Ross, Nepo Laulala, Mitchell Dunshea, Shannon Frizell, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.

Richard Knowler’s All Blacks: Will Jordan, Mark Telea, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Hoskins Sotutu, Ardie Savea, Lachlan Boshier, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Whitelock (c), Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Dane Coles, Alex Hodgman, Tyrel Lomax, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Beauden Barrett.

I had my little rant about Goodhue being solid but possibly a bit overrated at 13, and there was a bit of expected push back. But fuck me, if he is our best option at 12 then things are looking a bit shit for the year

The Silver Fern

AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?