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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • TimT Tim

    @Bones Playing better than ALB or Goodhue.

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    @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones Playing better than ALB or Goodhue.

    Good point. We know how good they can be though so I'd like to see them given a chance for at least a couple of games. Roane can slot in at 13 if they fail. Just please don't waste him or Goodhue at 12!

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    • BonesB Bones

      Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

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      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

      depends who we are playing...a 'form' and rookie back 3 wont supplant all the incumbants.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

        depends who we are playing...a 'form' and rookie back 3 wont supplant all the incumbants.

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        @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

        depends who we are playing...a 'form' and rookie back 3 wont supplant all the incumbants.

        Jordie is an incumbent. Rookie wings didn't matter last year!

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        • BonesB Bones

          @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

          depends who we are playing...a 'form' and rookie back 3 wont supplant all the incumbants.

          Jordie is an incumbent. Rookie wings didn't matter last year!

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          @Bones cant see it

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @Bones cant see it

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            @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @Bones cant see it

            What ya reckon, Jordan and Reece? Jordan and Bridge?

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              Oh...Roane and Reece? Jordan on the bench...

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                Shirley BB gets the 15 jumper. With Richie in good form, they won't leave BB out of the XV despite form not being too notch? Wings Jordan + 1, easier to pick 2 rookie wingers if you have BB at 15 so maybe Clarke gets it

                Jordie on the bench I reckon. Or, cough cough, in the midfield...

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                • voodooV voodoo

                  Shirley BB gets the 15 jumper. With Richie in good form, they won't leave BB out of the XV despite form not being too notch? Wings Jordan + 1, easier to pick 2 rookie wingers if you have BB at 15 so maybe Clarke gets it

                  Jordie on the bench I reckon. Or, cough cough, in the midfield...

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                  @voodoo

                  Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

                  I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @voodoo

                    Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

                    I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

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                    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @voodoo

                    Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

                    I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

                    So no real downgrade on our current no. 14...?

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                    • juniorJ junior

                      @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @voodoo

                      Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

                      I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

                      So no real downgrade on our current no. 14...?

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                      @junior

                      Good point.

                      Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

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                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                        Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                        Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                        Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                        Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                          Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                          Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                          Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                          Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

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                          #558

                          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                          Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                          Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                          Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                          Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                          Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                          Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                            Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                            Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                            Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                            Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                            Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                            Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                            Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                            Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                            Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                            Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                            Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                            Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                            BFA?

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                              Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                              Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                              Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                              Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                              Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                              Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                              BFA?

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                              @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                              Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                              Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                              Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                              Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                              Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                              Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                              BFA?

                              Duh.

                              Needs to work on playing rugby.

                              Oh and accounting.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @junior

                                Good point.

                                Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

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                                @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @junior

                                Good point.

                                Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

                                So still some work ons?

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                                  Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                                  Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                                  Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                                  Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                                  Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                                  Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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                                  junior
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                                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                                  Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                                  Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                                  Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                                  Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                                  Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                                  Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                                  Yeah, the guy who consistently nails match-winning kicks needs to work on his mental skills...

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                                  • juniorJ junior

                                    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @junior

                                    Good point.

                                    Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

                                    So still some work ons?

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                                    @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @junior

                                    Good point.

                                    Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

                                    So still some work ons?

                                    Are you saying he shoulda lied and pleaded not guilty?

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

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                                      @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

                                      TBH there's not been a standout player to suggest he shouldn't be at centre. The incumbents have all been very underwhelming. His defence has been very good and his speed is an asset - something we've missed in the backline recently.

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

                                        TBH there's not been a standout player to suggest he shouldn't be at centre. The incumbents have all been very underwhelming. His defence has been very good and his speed is an asset - something we've missed in the backline recently.

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                                        @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

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                                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

                                          Hard not to feel the Goodhue is an excellent 13 but mediocre 12. I feel much more comfortable for ABs with Rieko on wing, albeit covering 13. ALB seems to be a bit like Crotty, good at both 12 and 13, but not outstanding at either.

                                          I expect ALB and Jack would be the likely 12/13 picks if team named on Thursday.

                                          I like the look of PUJ. Does he cover 12 for Canes?

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