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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • BonesB Bones

    @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

    depends who we are playing...a 'form' and rookie back 3 wont supplant all the incumbants.

    Jordie is an incumbent. Rookie wings didn't matter last year!

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    @Bones cant see it

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      @Bones cant see it

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      @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @Bones cant see it

      What ya reckon, Jordan and Reece? Jordan and Bridge?

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        Oh...Roane and Reece? Jordan on the bench...

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          Shirley BB gets the 15 jumper. With Richie in good form, they won't leave BB out of the XV despite form not being too notch? Wings Jordan + 1, easier to pick 2 rookie wingers if you have BB at 15 so maybe Clarke gets it

          Jordie on the bench I reckon. Or, cough cough, in the midfield...

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          • voodooV voodoo

            Shirley BB gets the 15 jumper. With Richie in good form, they won't leave BB out of the XV despite form not being too notch? Wings Jordan + 1, easier to pick 2 rookie wingers if you have BB at 15 so maybe Clarke gets it

            Jordie on the bench I reckon. Or, cough cough, in the midfield...

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            @voodoo

            Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

            I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

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              @voodoo

              Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

              I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

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              @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @voodoo

              Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

              I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

              So no real downgrade on our current no. 14...?

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                @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @voodoo

                Here is the thing - Jordan is great at 15 and looks completely lost on defense when he plays at 14. He's also not a great defender, and he'll likely have more tackles to make at 11/14.

                I love him, he's super dangerous, but I'd really like to see that he play wing well (on both sides of the ball) at Super rugby level, before putting him there for the ABs...

                So no real downgrade on our current no. 14...?

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                @junior

                Good point.

                Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

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                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                  Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                  Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                  Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                  Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                    Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                    Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                    Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                    Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

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                    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                    Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                    Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                    Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                    Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                    Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                    Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                      Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                      Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                      Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                      Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                      Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                      Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                      Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                      Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                      Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                      Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                      Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                      Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                      BFA?

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                        Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                        Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                        Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                        Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                        Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                        Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                        BFA?

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                        @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                        Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                        Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                        Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                        Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                        Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                        Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                        BFA?

                        Duh.

                        Needs to work on playing rugby.

                        Oh and accounting.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @junior

                          Good point.

                          Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

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                          @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @junior

                          Good point.

                          Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

                          So still some work ons?

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                            Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                            Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                            Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                            Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                            Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                            Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

                            Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

                            Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

                            Jordan needs to improve his defence.

                            Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

                            Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

                            Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

                            Yeah, the guy who consistently nails match-winning kicks needs to work on his mental skills...

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                              @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @junior

                              Good point.

                              Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

                              So still some work ons?

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                              @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @junior

                              Good point.

                              Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

                              So still some work ons?

                              Are you saying he shoulda lied and pleaded not guilty?

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

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                                @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

                                TBH there's not been a standout player to suggest he shouldn't be at centre. The incumbents have all been very underwhelming. His defence has been very good and his speed is an asset - something we've missed in the backline recently.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

                                  TBH there's not been a standout player to suggest he shouldn't be at centre. The incumbents have all been very underwhelming. His defence has been very good and his speed is an asset - something we've missed in the backline recently.

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                                  @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

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                                    @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

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                                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

                                    Hard not to feel the Goodhue is an excellent 13 but mediocre 12. I feel much more comfortable for ABs with Rieko on wing, albeit covering 13. ALB seems to be a bit like Crotty, good at both 12 and 13, but not outstanding at either.

                                    I expect ALB and Jack would be the likely 12/13 picks if team named on Thursday.

                                    I like the look of PUJ. Does he cover 12 for Canes?

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                                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

                                      Hard not to feel the Goodhue is an excellent 13 but mediocre 12. I feel much more comfortable for ABs with Rieko on wing, albeit covering 13. ALB seems to be a bit like Crotty, good at both 12 and 13, but not outstanding at either.

                                      I expect ALB and Jack would be the likely 12/13 picks if team named on Thursday.

                                      I like the look of PUJ. Does he cover 12 for Canes?

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                                      @pakman I'm not all that comfortable with Roane covering centre and wing unless it's from the bench.

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                                        Who is the form 2nd 5/8 ? I would be tempted to say Nankivell or TJ Faiane but none of them is AB material IMO. So I guess the midfield combo should be ALB - Goodhue or ALB - Ioane.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                                          Comparing Laumape to GOAT is hilarious.

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                                          @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                                          Always thought Nonu had a high skill level but didn't quite know how and when to use them. He used to regularly be shite to average in Super Rugby, but once he pulled the black jersey on he was at another level.

                                          Dunno about Laumape though - he's developed a lot this year but is way behind where Nonu was at the same stage of his career.

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