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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • BonesB Bones

    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

    Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

    Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

    Jordan needs to improve his defence.

    Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

    Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

    Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

    Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

    Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

    Jordan needs to improve his defence.

    Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

    Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

    Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

    BFA?

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

      Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

      Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

      Jordan needs to improve his defence.

      Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

      Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

      Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

      BFA?

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      @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

      Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

      Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

      Jordan needs to improve his defence.

      Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

      Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

      Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

      BFA?

      Duh.

      Needs to work on playing rugby.

      Oh and accounting.

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      • gt12G gt12

        @junior

        Good point.

        Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

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        @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @junior

        Good point.

        Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

        So still some work ons?

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        • BonesB Bones

          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

          Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

          Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

          Jordan needs to improve his defence.

          Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

          Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

          Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

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          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Surely the back three has to be Clarke, Jordan, Jordie?

          Eventually. Think all three could be fab but have obvious work onsm

          Clarke needs to look for work more and score more tries.

          Jordan needs to improve his defence.

          Jordie needs to work on his decision-making and mental skills.

          Disagree on Jordie. He's stepped up this year.

          Anyway, can anyone name an AB back three player that doesn't have obvious work ons?

          Yeah, the guy who consistently nails match-winning kicks needs to work on his mental skills...

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            @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @junior

            Good point.

            Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

            So still some work ons?

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            @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @junior

            Good point.

            Hasn't plead guilty to male assaults female either.

            So still some work ons?

            Are you saying he shoulda lied and pleaded not guilty?

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            • TimT Tim

              @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

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              @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

              TBH there's not been a standout player to suggest he shouldn't be at centre. The incumbents have all been very underwhelming. His defence has been very good and his speed is an asset - something we've missed in the backline recently.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Bones Depends on where Rieko plays.

                TBH there's not been a standout player to suggest he shouldn't be at centre. The incumbents have all been very underwhelming. His defence has been very good and his speed is an asset - something we've missed in the backline recently.

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                @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

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                  @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

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                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

                  Hard not to feel the Goodhue is an excellent 13 but mediocre 12. I feel much more comfortable for ABs with Rieko on wing, albeit covering 13. ALB seems to be a bit like Crotty, good at both 12 and 13, but not outstanding at either.

                  I expect ALB and Jack would be the likely 12/13 picks if team named on Thursday.

                  I like the look of PUJ. Does he cover 12 for Canes?

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                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @antipodean he's by far the form centre. Followed by PUJ. Only the Highlanders centres rate lower than the form of Goodhue and ALB...

                    Hard not to feel the Goodhue is an excellent 13 but mediocre 12. I feel much more comfortable for ABs with Rieko on wing, albeit covering 13. ALB seems to be a bit like Crotty, good at both 12 and 13, but not outstanding at either.

                    I expect ALB and Jack would be the likely 12/13 picks if team named on Thursday.

                    I like the look of PUJ. Does he cover 12 for Canes?

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                    @pakman I'm not all that comfortable with Roane covering centre and wing unless it's from the bench.

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                      Who is the form 2nd 5/8 ? I would be tempted to say Nankivell or TJ Faiane but none of them is AB material IMO. So I guess the midfield combo should be ALB - Goodhue or ALB - Ioane.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                        Comparing Laumape to GOAT is hilarious.

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                        @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                        Always thought Nonu had a high skill level but didn't quite know how and when to use them. He used to regularly be shite to average in Super Rugby, but once he pulled the black jersey on he was at another level.

                        Dunno about Laumape though - he's developed a lot this year but is way behind where Nonu was at the same stage of his career.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                          Always thought Nonu had a high skill level but didn't quite know how and when to use them. He used to regularly be shite to average in Super Rugby, but once he pulled the black jersey on he was at another level.

                          Dunno about Laumape though - he's developed a lot this year but is way behind where Nonu was at the same stage of his career.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                          Always thought Nonu had a high skill level but didn't quite know how and when to use them. He used to regularly be shite to average in Super Rugby, but once he pulled the black jersey on he was at another level.

                          Dunno about Laumape though - he's developed a lot this year but is way behind where Nonu was at the same stage of his career.

                          Here's one to put cat among pigeons: I think Caleb Clarke has many of the attributes to make a very good 12.

                          Outstanding at second receiver a couple of times today, in particular in first Blues try.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                            Always thought Nonu had a high skill level but didn't quite know how and when to use them. He used to regularly be shite to average in Super Rugby, but once he pulled the black jersey on he was at another level.

                            Dunno about Laumape though - he's developed a lot this year but is way behind where Nonu was at the same stage of his career.

                            Here's one to put cat among pigeons: I think Caleb Clarke has many of the attributes to make a very good 12.

                            Outstanding at second receiver a couple of times today, in particular in first Blues try.

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                            @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                            Always thought Nonu had a high skill level but didn't quite know how and when to use them. He used to regularly be shite to average in Super Rugby, but once he pulled the black jersey on he was at another level.

                            Dunno about Laumape though - he's developed a lot this year but is way behind where Nonu was at the same stage of his career.

                            Here's one to put cat amoug pigeons: I think Caleb Clarke has many of the attributes to make a very good 12.

                            Outstanding at second receiver a couple of times today, in particular in first Blues try.

                            Nice... actually when running in traffic he does actually remind me of that big munter they had at the Lions a year or so ago.

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                              @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Nonu started as a winger, missed RWC selection and further developed his skill set.

                              Always thought Nonu had a high skill level but didn't quite know how and when to use them. He used to regularly be shite to average in Super Rugby, but once he pulled the black jersey on he was at another level.

                              Dunno about Laumape though - he's developed a lot this year but is way behind where Nonu was at the same stage of his career.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew

                              Nonu far too often mailed it in playing Super Rugby - his spot was largely guaranteed at Second First Five for majority of his career

                              He was a tiger for the ABs and a pussycat for Landers, Canes

                              To be fair he fronted up for the Blues

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                                @Victor-Meldrew

                                Nonu far too often mailed it in playing Super Rugby - his spot was largely guaranteed at Second First Five for majority of his career

                                He was a tiger for the ABs and a pussycat for Landers, Canes

                                To be fair he fronted up for the Blues

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                                @ravens88 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                Second First Five

                                Waaaaait a miiinute....

                                He was excellent for the canes throughout the noughties.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew

                                  Nonu far too often mailed it in playing Super Rugby - his spot was largely guaranteed at Second First Five for majority of his career

                                  He was a tiger for the ABs and a pussycat for Landers, Canes

                                  To be fair he fronted up for the Blues

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                                  @ravens88 Nonsense, until he fell out with Hammett, Nonu was a consistently excellent player for the Canes. Our problems in the 2000s were in the Forwards and at First Five.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @ravens88 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    Second First Five

                                    Waaaaait a miiinute....

                                    He was excellent for the canes throughout the noughties.

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                                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @ravens88 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    Second First Five

                                    Waaaaait a miiinute....

                                    He was excellent for the canes throughout the noughties.

                                    Agree but he was special in that he seemed to peak for the ABs with his final year being perhaps his finest.

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                                      Who is the form 2nd 5/8 ? I would be tempted to say Nankivell or TJ Faiane but none of them is AB material IMO. So I guess the midfield combo should be ALB - Goodhue or ALB - Ioane.

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                                      @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Who is the form 2nd 5/8 ? I would be tempted to say Nankivell or TJ Faiane but none of them is AB material IMO. So I guess the midfield combo should be ALB - Goodhue or ALB - Ioane.

                                      I think Fozzie is looking to win right now, anyone expecting a form XV will be disappointed IMHO. I’m guessing ALB and Goodhue will be top of the list for first 2 or 3 tests.

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                                        @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        Who is the form 2nd 5/8 ? I would be tempted to say Nankivell or TJ Faiane but none of them is AB material IMO. So I guess the midfield combo should be ALB - Goodhue or ALB - Ioane.

                                        I think Fozzie is looking to win right now, anyone expecting a form XV will be disappointed IMHO. I’m guessing ALB and Goodhue will be top of the list for first 2 or 3 tests.

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                                        @DMX said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        Who is the form 2nd 5/8 ? I would be tempted to say Nankivell or TJ Faiane but none of them is AB material IMO. So I guess the midfield combo should be ALB - Goodhue or ALB - Ioane.

                                        I think Fozzie is looking to win right now, anyone expecting a form XV will be disappointed IMHO. I’m guessing ALB and Goodhue will be top of the list for first 2 or 3 tests.

                                        He's got a 2 year contract with a lot to prove, winning this year (if there are any games) will mean nothing, too. Hell want a nailed down team for hopefully a proper/more extensive session next year

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew

                                          Nonu far too often mailed it in playing Super Rugby - his spot was largely guaranteed at Second First Five for majority of his career

                                          He was a tiger for the ABs and a pussycat for Landers, Canes

                                          To be fair he fronted up for the Blues

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                                          @ravens88 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew

                                          Nonu far too often mailed it in playing Super Rugby - his spot was largely guaranteed at Second First Five for majority of his career

                                          He was a tiger for the ABs and a pussycat for Landers, Canes

                                          > To be fair he fronted up for the Blues

                                          the second time round.

                                          The first time it seems he refused to play outside Gareth, then pulled the pin on a handshake and shot off to the Clan. Wonderful All Black, but not the finest human being at times.

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