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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

    Moody
    Taylor
    Laulala
    Whitelock
    Patty T
    Akira
    Cane
    Sotutu
    Smith
    Mounga
    Clark
    Goodhue
    Reiko
    Jordan
    BB

    Karl T
    Ofa T
    Eklund
    SBarrett
    Robinson
    Papali'i
    Hall
    ALB

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    @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

    Moody
    Taylor
    Laulala
    Whitelock
    Patty T
    Akira
    Cane
    Sotutu
    Smith
    Mounga
    Clark
    Goodhue
    Reiko
    Jordan
    BB

    Karl T
    Ofa T
    Eklund
    SBarrett
    Robinson
    Papali'i
    Hall
    ALB

    Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

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      how is Goodhue our best 12?

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      • C cgrant

        @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

        Moody
        Taylor
        Laulala
        Whitelock
        Patty T
        Akira
        Cane
        Sotutu
        Smith
        Mounga
        Clark
        Goodhue
        Reiko
        Jordan
        BB

        Karl T
        Ofa T
        Eklund
        SBarrett
        Robinson
        Papali'i
        Hall
        ALB

        Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

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        @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

        Moody
        Taylor
        Laulala
        Whitelock
        Patty T
        Akira
        Cane
        Sotutu
        Smith
        Mounga
        Clark
        Goodhue
        Reiko
        Jordan
        BB

        Karl T
        Ofa T
        Eklund
        SBarrett
        Robinson
        Papali'i
        Hall
        ALB

        Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

        Don't feed the troll

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          Interesting stuff

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300077182/all-blacks-conditioner-nic-gill-reveals-the-fittest-players-in-the-country

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            Interesting stuff

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300077182/all-blacks-conditioner-nic-gill-reveals-the-fittest-players-in-the-country

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            @Machpants Interesting, but I would like also to know which players have the most explosive power over 5m to 15m. With so much stop/start and lower amount of time in a game with the ball in play, international Rugby is getting like NFL. Fitness will always be important but is not as important if the game has so many breaks.

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            • C cgrant

              @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

              Moody
              Taylor
              Laulala
              Whitelock
              Patty T
              Akira
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Mounga
              Clark
              Goodhue
              Reiko
              Jordan
              BB

              Karl T
              Ofa T
              Eklund
              SBarrett
              Robinson
              Papali'i
              Hall
              ALB

              Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

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              @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

              Moody
              Taylor
              Laulala
              Whitelock
              Patty T
              Akira
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Mounga
              Clark
              Goodhue
              Reiko
              Jordan
              BB

              Karl T
              Ofa T
              Eklund
              SBarrett
              Robinson
              Papali'i
              Hall
              ALB

              Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

              It's only Oz, so scrummaging not huge priority.

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                If we see Beauden at 15 and Mo'unga at 10 again I hope the dynamics change more in Mo'unga's favour. By that I mean let the backline be his to run. Last year I felt Beauden was the chief even though he was at 15 and I reckon that unsettled Mo'unga.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  If we see Beauden at 15 and Mo'unga at 10 again I hope the dynamics change more in Mo'unga's favour. By that I mean let the backline be his to run. Last year I felt Beauden was the chief even though he was at 15 and I reckon that unsettled Mo'unga.

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                  @Crazy-Horse fair observation, and I think the game plan was probably weighted more toward BB than Mounga steering the ship. Sure you can see alot from 15, but at 10 you are right there and need to be the one making decisions not worrying that your senior player has made the call and you can see it aint on or can see something else.

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                    @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

                    Moody
                    Taylor
                    Laulala
                    Whitelock
                    Patty T
                    Akira
                    Cane
                    Sotutu
                    Smith
                    Mounga
                    Clark
                    Goodhue
                    Reiko
                    Jordan
                    BB

                    Karl T
                    Ofa T
                    Eklund
                    SBarrett
                    Robinson
                    Papali'i
                    Hall
                    ALB

                    Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

                    It's only Oz, so scrummaging not huge priority.

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                    @pakman
                    So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

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                      @pakman
                      So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

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                      @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @pakman
                      So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                      Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                      Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

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                        Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

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                          @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

                          I'm on board with this except who comes off the bench? Laulala doesn't offer much in the loose.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

                            I'm on board with this except who comes off the bench? Laulala doesn't offer much in the loose.

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                            @mariner4life Lomax.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

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                              @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

                              In fact I think Armstrong went pretty well against him.

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                                @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @pakman
                                So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                                Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                                Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

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                                @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @pakman
                                So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                                Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                                Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

                                You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

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                                  @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @pakman
                                  So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                                  Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                                  Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

                                  You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

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                                  @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @pakman
                                  So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                                  Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                                  Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

                                  You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

                                  Nonetheless, a fair point!

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                                    My guess at the 35 man squad

                                    Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax, Ta'avao

                                    Taylor, Coles, Coltman

                                    Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Dunshea, Scrafton

                                    Frizell, A Ioane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu

                                    Smith, Perenera, Weber

                                    B Barrett, Mo'unga, J Ioane,

                                    ALB, Goodhue, R Ioane, Umaga-Jensen

                                    Clarke, Bridge, Jordan, Reece, J Barrett, D.Mac

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                                      My guess at the 35 man squad

                                      Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax, Ta'avao

                                      Taylor, Coles, Coltman

                                      Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Dunshea, Scrafton

                                      Frizell, A Ioane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu

                                      Smith, Perenera, Weber

                                      B Barrett, Mo'unga, J Ioane,

                                      ALB, Goodhue, R Ioane, Umaga-Jensen

                                      Clarke, Bridge, Jordan, Reece, J Barrett, D.Mac

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                                      @sparky Will they take six props or seven loosies?

                                      Likewise, three 10s or five midfielders? DMac, if in, covers 10.

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                                        Locks main area of uncertainty. Herald team: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12362487

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                                          @sparky Will they take six props or seven loosies?

                                          Likewise, three 10s or five midfielders? DMac, if in, covers 10.

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                                          @pakman I could easily see another Prop or Christie making it, instead of one of D Mac or Josh Ioane.

                                          Strange if fit will be the 4th lock.

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