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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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    how is Goodhue our best 12?

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      @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

      Moody
      Taylor
      Laulala
      Whitelock
      Patty T
      Akira
      Cane
      Sotutu
      Smith
      Mounga
      Clark
      Goodhue
      Reiko
      Jordan
      BB

      Karl T
      Ofa T
      Eklund
      SBarrett
      Robinson
      Papali'i
      Hall
      ALB

      Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

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      @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

      Moody
      Taylor
      Laulala
      Whitelock
      Patty T
      Akira
      Cane
      Sotutu
      Smith
      Mounga
      Clark
      Goodhue
      Reiko
      Jordan
      BB

      Karl T
      Ofa T
      Eklund
      SBarrett
      Robinson
      Papali'i
      Hall
      ALB

      Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

      Don't feed the troll

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        Interesting stuff

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300077182/all-blacks-conditioner-nic-gill-reveals-the-fittest-players-in-the-country

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          Interesting stuff

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300077182/all-blacks-conditioner-nic-gill-reveals-the-fittest-players-in-the-country

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          #822

          @Machpants Interesting, but I would like also to know which players have the most explosive power over 5m to 15m. With so much stop/start and lower amount of time in a game with the ball in play, international Rugby is getting like NFL. Fitness will always be important but is not as important if the game has so many breaks.

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          • C cgrant

            @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

            Moody
            Taylor
            Laulala
            Whitelock
            Patty T
            Akira
            Cane
            Sotutu
            Smith
            Mounga
            Clark
            Goodhue
            Reiko
            Jordan
            BB

            Karl T
            Ofa T
            Eklund
            SBarrett
            Robinson
            Papali'i
            Hall
            ALB

            Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

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            @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

            Moody
            Taylor
            Laulala
            Whitelock
            Patty T
            Akira
            Cane
            Sotutu
            Smith
            Mounga
            Clark
            Goodhue
            Reiko
            Jordan
            BB

            Karl T
            Ofa T
            Eklund
            SBarrett
            Robinson
            Papali'i
            Hall
            ALB

            Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

            It's only Oz, so scrummaging not huge priority.

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              If we see Beauden at 15 and Mo'unga at 10 again I hope the dynamics change more in Mo'unga's favour. By that I mean let the backline be his to run. Last year I felt Beauden was the chief even though he was at 15 and I reckon that unsettled Mo'unga.

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                If we see Beauden at 15 and Mo'unga at 10 again I hope the dynamics change more in Mo'unga's favour. By that I mean let the backline be his to run. Last year I felt Beauden was the chief even though he was at 15 and I reckon that unsettled Mo'unga.

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                @Crazy-Horse fair observation, and I think the game plan was probably weighted more toward BB than Mounga steering the ship. Sure you can see alot from 15, but at 10 you are right there and need to be the one making decisions not worrying that your senior player has made the call and you can see it aint on or can see something else.

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                  @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  If I'm picking a team to bash up the Wallabies (ignoring injuries)

                  Moody
                  Taylor
                  Laulala
                  Whitelock
                  Patty T
                  Akira
                  Cane
                  Sotutu
                  Smith
                  Mounga
                  Clark
                  Goodhue
                  Reiko
                  Jordan
                  BB

                  Karl T
                  Ofa T
                  Eklund
                  SBarrett
                  Robinson
                  Papali'i
                  Hall
                  ALB

                  Ofa T is the best THP IMO and should start. And no Ardie Savea in the 23 ?

                  It's only Oz, so scrummaging not huge priority.

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                  @pakman
                  So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

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                    @pakman
                    So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

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                    @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @pakman
                    So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                    Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                    Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

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                      Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

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                        @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

                        I'm on board with this except who comes off the bench? Laulala doesn't offer much in the loose.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

                          I'm on board with this except who comes off the bench? Laulala doesn't offer much in the loose.

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                          @mariner4life Lomax.

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                            Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

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                            @antipodean said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Watching Ofa this year I think I'd prefer he started. He hasn't looked troubled in his scrummaging and I like the thought of him destroying people in tackles from the first minute.

                            In fact I think Armstrong went pretty well against him.

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                              @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @pakman
                              So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                              Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                              Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

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                              @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @pakman
                              So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                              Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                              Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

                              You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

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                                @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @pakman
                                So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                                Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                                Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

                                You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

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                                @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @pakman
                                So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

                                Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

                                Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

                                You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

                                Nonetheless, a fair point!

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                                  #834

                                  My guess at the 35 man squad

                                  Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax, Ta'avao

                                  Taylor, Coles, Coltman

                                  Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Dunshea, Scrafton

                                  Frizell, A Ioane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu

                                  Smith, Perenera, Weber

                                  B Barrett, Mo'unga, J Ioane,

                                  ALB, Goodhue, R Ioane, Umaga-Jensen

                                  Clarke, Bridge, Jordan, Reece, J Barrett, D.Mac

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                                    My guess at the 35 man squad

                                    Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax, Ta'avao

                                    Taylor, Coles, Coltman

                                    Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Dunshea, Scrafton

                                    Frizell, A Ioane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu

                                    Smith, Perenera, Weber

                                    B Barrett, Mo'unga, J Ioane,

                                    ALB, Goodhue, R Ioane, Umaga-Jensen

                                    Clarke, Bridge, Jordan, Reece, J Barrett, D.Mac

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                                    @sparky Will they take six props or seven loosies?

                                    Likewise, three 10s or five midfielders? DMac, if in, covers 10.

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                                      Locks main area of uncertainty. Herald team: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12362487

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                                        @sparky Will they take six props or seven loosies?

                                        Likewise, three 10s or five midfielders? DMac, if in, covers 10.

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                                        #837

                                        @pakman I could easily see another Prop or Christie making it, instead of one of D Mac or Josh Ioane.

                                        Strange if fit will be the 4th lock.

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                                          Parkinson's injury came at the worst time eh. Fella was a shoe in for the 3rd lock spot I reckon. That's the area of interest for me this morning. Well that and loosies.

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