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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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    @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @pakman
    So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

    Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

    Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

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    @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @pakman
    So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

    Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

    Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

    You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

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      @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @pakman
      So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

      Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

      Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

      You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

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      @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @pakman
      So, if scrummaging is not the highest priority, why did you choose Laulala ahead of Ofa T ?

      Not sure I actually posted a team. But if Boks front I'd want Nepo to start. I like the thought of Ofa and Karl T coming on after 55.

      Against Oz, relaxed with Ofa (who's been huge in loose) starting and perhaps Lomax on bench.

      You're right. It was MarinerforLife who did.

      Nonetheless, a fair point!

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        #834

        My guess at the 35 man squad

        Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax, Ta'avao

        Taylor, Coles, Coltman

        Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Dunshea, Scrafton

        Frizell, A Ioane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu

        Smith, Perenera, Weber

        B Barrett, Mo'unga, J Ioane,

        ALB, Goodhue, R Ioane, Umaga-Jensen

        Clarke, Bridge, Jordan, Reece, J Barrett, D.Mac

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          My guess at the 35 man squad

          Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax, Ta'avao

          Taylor, Coles, Coltman

          Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Dunshea, Scrafton

          Frizell, A Ioane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu

          Smith, Perenera, Weber

          B Barrett, Mo'unga, J Ioane,

          ALB, Goodhue, R Ioane, Umaga-Jensen

          Clarke, Bridge, Jordan, Reece, J Barrett, D.Mac

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          @sparky Will they take six props or seven loosies?

          Likewise, three 10s or five midfielders? DMac, if in, covers 10.

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            Locks main area of uncertainty. Herald team: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12362487

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            • P pakman

              @sparky Will they take six props or seven loosies?

              Likewise, three 10s or five midfielders? DMac, if in, covers 10.

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              #837

              @pakman I could easily see another Prop or Christie making it, instead of one of D Mac or Josh Ioane.

              Strange if fit will be the 4th lock.

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                Parkinson's injury came at the worst time eh. Fella was a shoe in for the 3rd lock spot I reckon. That's the area of interest for me this morning. Well that and loosies.

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                  #839

                  Also worth noting Grant Fox mentioned that if the opening Bledisloes are in Aus then the ABs are going to need more than 35 to be in the squad that travels over as it won't be possible to fly players over if there are injuries.

                  So i'd expect extra players named either today or later.

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                    Scrafton making an AB squad would be embarrassing. The guy doesn't dominate provincial rugby, let alone higher levels. Dunshea is only marginally better: at least he stands out at NPC level. And yet I have to recognise that in the absence of Retallick, Barrett, Parkinson, Strange and Dickson, we're a little bereft in this position.

                    At hooker I hope Aumua makes it ahead of Coltman, who I used to like but his line out throwing scares the shit outta me.

                    Midfield will be interesting. ALB, Ioane and Goodhue are givens, and there really aren't any other 12 options so it's clearly one of Ennor or Peter Umaga-Jensen, but that's a tight call. I'd stick with Ennor for the time being. I think he's the more likely long-term AB.

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                      When is this fanciful team named anyway?

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                      • sharkS shark

                        When is this fanciful team named anyway?

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                        @shark 11am.

                        I agree wholeheartedly on Scrafton. A hard pass for me. He came on yesterday and his contribution was giving away 2 penalties.

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                          #843

                          Is it fair now that we're in this position, to question the development pathway for genuine locks over the last few years? We haven't seen anyone of genuine size and clear international ability emerge for a while, and in the meantime many of the SR franchises have been pissing about playing blindside flankers at lock far more frequently than can be healthy, whilst also promoting the likes of Scrafton and Whetton. Jeez, Hamish Dalziel wouldn't even shit on those guys. Parkinson might be the only one who's come through of late.

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                            It'd be outstanding if someone with more time than I could post the names, stats, provinces and status of the U20 locks since 2016 or so. Those are the guys we should now be turning to.

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                              Scrafton making an AB squad would be embarrassing. The guy doesn't dominate provincial rugby, let alone higher levels. Dunshea is only marginally better: at least he stands out at NPC level. And yet I have to recognise that in the absence of Retallick, Barrett, Parkinson, Strange and Dickson, we're a little bereft in this position.

                              At hooker I hope Aumua makes it ahead of Coltman, who I used to like but his line out throwing scares the shit outta me.

                              Midfield will be interesting. ALB, Ioane and Goodhue are givens, and there really aren't any other 12 options so it's clearly one of Ennor or Peter Umaga-Jensen, but that's a tight call. I'd stick with Ennor for the time being. I think he's the more likely long-term AB.

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                              @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Scrafton making an AB squad would be embarrassing. The guy doesn't dominate provincial rugby, let alone higher levels. Dunshea is only marginally better: at least he stands out at NPC level. And yet I have to recognise that in the absence of Retallick, Barrett, Parkinson, Strange and Dickson, we're a little bereft in this position.

                              At hooker I hope Aumua makes it ahead of Coltman, who I used to like but his line out throwing scares the shit outta me.

                              Midfield will be interesting. ALB, Ioane and Goodhue are givens, and there really aren't any other 12 options so it's clearly one of Ennor or Peter Umaga-Jensen, but that's a tight call. I'd stick with Ennor for the time being. I think he's the more likely long-term AB.

                              I think this is living proof that the Rugby gods are punishing the ABs for having guys as good as Retallick and Whitelock playing at the same time.

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                                No surprises.
                                Strange and Vaa’i get the lock spots

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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  Good to see Grace in.

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                                    Two CM players. One described as being from Manukau, one from Auckland.
                                    Get it right

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                                      #849

                                      Vaa'i and Grace are a surprise for me. Glad Clarke is there he deserves a spot. Wonder if Ennor will be available after last night's injury, knee injuries are never good.

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                                        Great to see Hodgman make it.

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                                          lack of specialist 12s is a stand out , Nor the selectors fault mind you, it could be argued all those midfielders are better 13s

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