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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

    @Stargazer agree. Who would you have in place for FB? Josh Ioane?

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    @Yeetyaah David Havili

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      Dmac is the luckiest man in that squad.

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      @Stargazer don’t think DMac will be a starter.

      When you look at the players out with injury some good talent to come back in.

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        Would have put Umaga Jensen ahead of Ennor.

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        @Frank Good call on PUJ.

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          @Stargazer don’t think DMac will be a starter.

          When you look at the players out with injury some good talent to come back in.

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          @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Stargazer don’t think DMac will be a starter.

          When you look at the players out with injury some good talent to come back in.

          Be surprised if he was in the starting 23 ,

          Richie , beaudy, jordie you would think

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            Interesting to see the changes from last year's RWC squad.

            Gone are:
            Coltman, Moli, Taávao, Barrett, Retallick, Jacobson, Read, Todd

            Crotty, SBW, Ben Smith

            The first six will all potentially come again, though I have doubts about Coltman and Ta'avao.

            Lock an obvious challenge in the absence of Retallick and Barrett, and I suspect both the young Ta$man locks would have made it if PPP hadn't been injured. But, that issue will resolve itself in time.

            A slight issue at 2nd five with Laumape injured and ALB not in his best form. I reckon there's a case to play Jordie at 2nd five and Beaudy at fullback.

            Otherwise, something of a needed refresh - I wouldn't want to go to a RWC with a squad this green, but there's lots of upside as the young guys get some tests under their belts.

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              Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

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                @kiwiinmelb Something that was blatantly lacking last year.

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                  @kiwiinmelb Something that was blatantly lacking last year.

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                  @African-Monkey said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @kiwiinmelb Something that was blatantly lacking last year.

                  Sounds like post World Cup 03 ,

                  Done the full cycle

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                    Injured or absent locks:

                    Retallick
                    Barrett
                    Dickson
                    Parkinson

                    Walker-Leawere must be wondering what the hell happened this year. He and a few Blues locks should be fired up for the NPC.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      Interesting to see the changes from last year's RWC squad.

                      Gone are:
                      Coltman, Moli, Taávao, Barrett, Retallick, Jacobson, Read, Todd

                      Crotty, SBW, Ben Smith

                      The first six will all potentially come again, though I have doubts about Coltman and Ta'avao.

                      Lock an obvious challenge in the absence of Retallick and Barrett, and I suspect both the young Ta$man locks would have made it if PPP hadn't been injured. But, that issue will resolve itself in time.

                      A slight issue at 2nd five with Laumape injured and ALB not in his best form. I reckon there's a case to play Jordie at 2nd five and Beaudy at fullback.

                      Otherwise, something of a needed refresh - I wouldn't want to go to a RWC with a squad this green, but there's lots of upside as the young guys get some tests under their belts.

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                      @Chris-B Yep, you'd have to think Tupou Vaai'i has only been picked because Retallick and Barrett aren't there, and PPP injured.

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                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                        @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Stargazer don’t think DMac will be a starter.

                        When you look at the players out with injury some good talent to come back in.

                        Be surprised if he was in the starting 23 ,

                        Richie , beaudy, jordie you would think

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                        @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

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                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                          Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

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                          @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                          Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                          This is a pretty uninspiring squad, I doubt that SA is shaking in their boots looking at that lot.

                          And we're going to develop more outside backs than you can shake a stick at, while
                          only carrying two specialist first fives. When Joane bolts for the money overseas, think about your selections for squads like this Fozzy.

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                            In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

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                              ALB is clearly the starting 12 and Goodhue his back-up. Certainly top heavy at 13 and light at 12. I'd give J Barrett a crack at 12, should the opportunity arise.

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                              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

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                                @Yeetyaah said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

                                You might be right , but the comments on players having specialist positions is an interesting one ,

                                And where does that leave beaudy ?

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                                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                  @Yeetyaah said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

                                  You might be right , but the comments on players having specialist positions is an interesting one ,

                                  And where does that leave beaudy ?

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                                  @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

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                                    @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

                                    Not sure , I guess we wait and see , his ability to play both is a massive plus that is for sure

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                                      Foster on leaders:

                                      "We've lost about five from our leadership group. We start with a small group. We'll see how they grow."

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

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                                        @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

                                        Looking at how many names are ahead of him, he'd be mad to not take the money overseas.

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                                          Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                                          Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

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