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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • K kev

    @Stargazer don’t think DMac will be a starter.

    When you look at the players out with injury some good talent to come back in.

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    @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Stargazer don’t think DMac will be a starter.

    When you look at the players out with injury some good talent to come back in.

    Be surprised if he was in the starting 23 ,

    Richie , beaudy, jordie you would think

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      Interesting to see the changes from last year's RWC squad.

      Gone are:
      Coltman, Moli, Taávao, Barrett, Retallick, Jacobson, Read, Todd

      Crotty, SBW, Ben Smith

      The first six will all potentially come again, though I have doubts about Coltman and Ta'avao.

      Lock an obvious challenge in the absence of Retallick and Barrett, and I suspect both the young Ta$man locks would have made it if PPP hadn't been injured. But, that issue will resolve itself in time.

      A slight issue at 2nd five with Laumape injured and ALB not in his best form. I reckon there's a case to play Jordie at 2nd five and Beaudy at fullback.

      Otherwise, something of a needed refresh - I wouldn't want to go to a RWC with a squad this green, but there's lots of upside as the young guys get some tests under their belts.

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        Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

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          @kiwiinmelb Something that was blatantly lacking last year.

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            @kiwiinmelb Something that was blatantly lacking last year.

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            @African-Monkey said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @kiwiinmelb Something that was blatantly lacking last year.

            Sounds like post World Cup 03 ,

            Done the full cycle

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              Injured or absent locks:

              Retallick
              Barrett
              Dickson
              Parkinson

              Walker-Leawere must be wondering what the hell happened this year. He and a few Blues locks should be fired up for the NPC.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                Interesting to see the changes from last year's RWC squad.

                Gone are:
                Coltman, Moli, Taávao, Barrett, Retallick, Jacobson, Read, Todd

                Crotty, SBW, Ben Smith

                The first six will all potentially come again, though I have doubts about Coltman and Ta'avao.

                Lock an obvious challenge in the absence of Retallick and Barrett, and I suspect both the young Ta$man locks would have made it if PPP hadn't been injured. But, that issue will resolve itself in time.

                A slight issue at 2nd five with Laumape injured and ALB not in his best form. I reckon there's a case to play Jordie at 2nd five and Beaudy at fullback.

                Otherwise, something of a needed refresh - I wouldn't want to go to a RWC with a squad this green, but there's lots of upside as the young guys get some tests under their belts.

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                @Chris-B Yep, you'd have to think Tupou Vaai'i has only been picked because Retallick and Barrett aren't there, and PPP injured.

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                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                  @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Stargazer don’t think DMac will be a starter.

                  When you look at the players out with injury some good talent to come back in.

                  Be surprised if he was in the starting 23 ,

                  Richie , beaudy, jordie you would think

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                  @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

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                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                    Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                    Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                    This is a pretty uninspiring squad, I doubt that SA is shaking in their boots looking at that lot.

                    And we're going to develop more outside backs than you can shake a stick at, while
                    only carrying two specialist first fives. When Joane bolts for the money overseas, think about your selections for squads like this Fozzy.

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                      In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

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                        ALB is clearly the starting 12 and Goodhue his back-up. Certainly top heavy at 13 and light at 12. I'd give J Barrett a crack at 12, should the opportunity arise.

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                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                          @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

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                          @Yeetyaah said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

                          You might be right , but the comments on players having specialist positions is an interesting one ,

                          And where does that leave beaudy ?

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                            @Yeetyaah said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @kiwiinmelb Jordie deserves to be the starting 15, but I can't help but feel like they'll want the Mo'unga/Beaudie combo.

                            You might be right , but the comments on players having specialist positions is an interesting one ,

                            And where does that leave beaudy ?

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                            @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

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                              @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @kiwiinmelb With no. 22 on his back?

                              Not sure , I guess we wait and see , his ability to play both is a massive plus that is for sure

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                                Foster on leaders:

                                "We've lost about five from our leadership group. We start with a small group. We'll see how they grow."

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                                  In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

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                                  @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

                                  Looking at how many names are ahead of him, he'd be mad to not take the money overseas.

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                                    Forwards coach John Pumtree says Ardie Savea is being looked at as a No 8 first and a No 7 second.
                                    Said they wanted to identify big, bruising loose forwards who could get the ABs over the gainline with sheer "brutality".

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                                      Not much to quibble with in there.

                                      I think Papali'i was one of the slightly lucky ones, he was ok this year but not standout, but I think he's good guy to have in the squad and he almost covers the whole trio on the bench. First sign that Foster isn't going to be biased towards Chiefs players?

                                      I assume Ennor has made it due to Laumape's injury?

                                      Good to see Clarke and Jordan both in there, hopefully one of them takes Reece's spot. I still would prefer that we select Rieko as a wing.

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                                        Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                                        This is a pretty uninspiring squad, I doubt that SA is shaking in their boots looking at that lot.

                                        And we're going to develop more outside backs than you can shake a stick at, while
                                        only carrying two specialist first fives. When Joane bolts for the money overseas, think about your selections for squads like this Fozzy.

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                                        @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        Interesting to hear selectors talk about more emphasis on players having specialist positions, and the need for more physicality.

                                        Where is that in this squad? Who exactly?

                                        Look at the loose forwards and props. Add in Patty, Aumua. Plenty of physicality there.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          In a way, David Havili is again the unluckiest of all. Best back during pre-covid SR and then that horrible bowel infection ruined it all. He didn't have enough time to get back to that pre-covid form because of that broken thumb. And so he misses out. Again.

                                          Looking at how many names are ahead of him, he'd be mad to not take the money overseas.

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                                          @gt12 Why would he? The main reason he's not there, is the fact that he has spent quite some time in the injury ward. If he can get back to his pre-covid form and stay healthy, he should be able to get in next year. Especially if Dmac doesn't improve.

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